From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 23 22:30: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF1D14D7E for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:29:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id HAA09184; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:29:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id HAA16596; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:29:38 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990924162820.A27798@patho.gen.nz> References: <199909231215.OAA85963@gratis.grondar.za> <86u2olfgg1.fsf@emerson.gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us> <19990924162820.A27798@patho.gen.nz> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:05:20 +0200 To: Joe Abley , Mark Murray From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:28 PM +1200 1999/9/24, Joe Abley wrote: > How much mail does the use of the MAPS DUL reject? I don't know about the stats from hub.freebsd.org, but from my experience it rejects a relatively small amount. > How much of that do you think is worth rejecting? Again, from my experience, most of it. Damn few dial-up users around the world are clueful enough to be able to run their own mail server properly, and to be able to prevent it from being used as an open relay. IME, the *vast* majority of people with dial-up accounts that attempt to directly contact remote servers are in fact junkmailers that are attempting to secretly send out their effluent while by-passing the mail servers provided by their ISP, so that they hopefully don't get detected. A classic example of this would be someone using a throwaway AOL account to send out as many junkmail messages as they can in several hours through a number of open relays, knowing that they will be detected and the "free" account will be terminated in a few hours. This is becoming pretty standard practice, and is generally recommended. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message