From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 27 20:25:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838216A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:25:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E51543D41 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:25:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DFeJJ-0004ll-A6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:24:37 +0200 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:24:37 +0200 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:24:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: inetd vs standalone daemon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:25:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: > So how do we remove it from freebsd ? Please let it be a pkg_delete :) > If not witch freebsd source developer do i need to pull his leg to > remove it from source into a pkg ? Here's a bit of basic information about FreeBSD. Despite what you may have learned about Linux, having every single file in the system managed by a package is *NOT* a good idea[1]. You end up with systems lacking compilers[2] that way, which confuse new users who try to build software. inetd is not part of any package, and I hope that it never will be. inetd is part of FreeBSD's base system -- the collection of software, documentation, &c. that the FreeBSD group maintains on their own, separate from the Ports Collection which is (for the most part) composed entirely of third-party software. I will admit that this doesn't permit for the granularity available in Linux distributions. But personally, I don't want that sort of granularity. I don't want to have to *worry* about installing a compiler, OpenSSL, and the like. I just want to tell it to install everything and have it *actually* install everything. If you want to make a fully package-based version of FreeBSD, where everything from /bin/ls to /usr/sbin/inetd is a package, then by all means do so. You won't even be alone in your desire. I seem to remember a group of people vocalising a request for this a while ago. You'll never be able to count me as a user, though. :) [1]: I'm not exactly pleased with the "distributions" concept when you install, but since I always select "All" anyway, it's a moot point I suppose. [2]: And other crucial things like OpenSSL, which even crops up on FreeBSD from time to time. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRxbyk/lo7zvzJioRAuY6AJ97blX5BpXNuvL96dK2yHdKeS8NKACgqd/r P8L8J/sI8CveGycvd0yv/cg= =ytvh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly.