From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 10 10:37:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5521065807; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584D58FC1C; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so3505290bkv.13 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:37:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hHc6WbS4Dtralgiol76T03ZVh4Z0Eud1ssIHLx0mZ3Q=; b=WYLPb2s0jbGySGu0Odj7767CtO0/fN9Lh7dxW8a9/6vJ9jhxE3FXYRL6hfmezQ+pW/ 3PhWRJNuhK7Me5TLZ7Xg+tbj8Y7v18uBWx3Rtb69xmgUmJ8IsuJzpmuczWnknuGWrBZp ICwdyzQBALTRpmG6y3zkq8g3+vvqRxFkFtSn6VWuRSY8wsf+r1szzXhCFv9vyxfCdAGH 4zOeH+PBlXauIdoRhwWJ/jp5E/ikQnnOcs05Z4rdkmzQTP3oNWOiUm4DS+yDJFW9orXj 5ht1bHEV0qBMh4xGVaIPc8DUk97wW3ziDXaAWFNQMgtRPkGf4RxCDHbJZuLuS+gkVWZT M1jw== Received: by 10.204.154.214 with SMTP id p22mr8548197bkw.115.1339324660054; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:37:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.171.138 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:37:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120610121210.3ce1bd9d@zelda.sugioarto.com> References: <20120604110339.GA9426@equilibrium.bsdes.net> <4FD2D4CC.3080109@ateamsystems.com> <4FD3003C.4080109@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD352FF.9090101@ateamsystems.com> <4FD357F2.9090901@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4FD35905.9080500@ateamsystems.com> <20120610121210.3ce1bd9d@zelda.sugioarto.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:37:09 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _Oam4dV8uRWNmdOHnTDEw8iOw4Y Message-ID: To: Martin Sugioarto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Steve Franks , "O. Hartmann" , Current FreeBSD , freebsd-stable , Adam Strohl Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 10:37:42 -0000 On 10 June 2012 11:12, Martin Sugioarto wrote: > Am Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:09 +0700 > schrieb Adam Strohl : > >> I get the feeling people are updating their ports tree and then >> recompiling/reinstalling everything "just because" and then are >> complaining when one thing breaks (its the only thing I can think of). > > Hi. > > But it does not need to break. Sometimes it would be enough just to > test if the port compiles before committing it (I'm talking about > libreoffice here which is broken). Some people rely on some essential > ports. I can understand that porters are not Gods and make errors, but > they should be fixed within hours, when they have been found on > important ports. > > I mean, ports collection is sure great and this is one of the aspects > why I am using FreeBSD, but at the moment FreeBSD is losing strength > here, in my opinion. Er... people always test their commits. Sometimes edge cases will creep in, such as the libreoffice failure which was due to different configurations, but to suggest that the commit wasn't tested is quite frankly insulting-- it built on a clean system perfectly well. Chris