From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 9 22:20:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E11F16A527; Tue, 9 May 2006 22:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA2143D45; Tue, 9 May 2006 22:20:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k49MJsU0067984; Tue, 9 May 2006 19:19:54 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 19:19:46 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <445D3C94.10102@errno.com> <200605080845.18125.joao@matik.com.br> <445F684A.1080501@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <445F684A.1080501@errno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605091919.46565.joao@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CFT: new ath hal (take 2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 22:20:09 -0000 On Monday 08 May 2006 12:48, Sam Leffler wrote: > If I had intended stable users to try this code I would have: > > 1. posted to stable@ > 2. provided specific changes for those users (e.g. a patch) > > You will note my initial post about a new hal was done to both mailing > lists. I did not post this hal to stable because I did not want to deal > with people complaining that things did not work because they had > problems back-patching the necessary changes. I included info in my > original post for those folks running current that were going to do it > anyway so they could save some time. > > I replied to your post because all it did was set people up for failures > that would result in mail to me that I don't have time to handle. Then > those people would either get frustrated by not getting an answer or > think there was some problem that wasn't being fixed. > > I treat the stable src tree VERY carefully. I do not inflict pain on > users running stable. I do not arbitrarily commit changes that require > people to manually alter their system or otherwise deal with binary > incompatibilities. I treat stable as a production code base and only > apply changes that are considered well-tested and appropriate to run in > a production environment. > got your point but this is free software and anybody can contribute as well as anybody may= =20 decide what works for him or not and use it then with the same spirit. It i= s=20 oustanding that you are responsible and well organized with your work but= =20 this should not cut others freedom to mix it up for themselfs. Good talk, let's move on and may be you find some time to help me finding o= ut=20 why this damned ath cards sometimes stop rx/tx under load.=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br