From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 23 20:52:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE0E037B41B for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 48356 invoked by uid 100); 24 Apr 2002 03:52:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15558.11239.49073.305379@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:52:07 -0500 To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory In-Reply-To: <20020424020740647.AAA735@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> References: <20020423235147062.AAA735@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> <20020424020740647.AAA735@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.52 (Python 2.2 on FreeBSD/i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20020424020740647.AAA735@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>, Philip J. Koenig typed: > On 23 Apr 2002, at 19:04, Mike Meyer boldly uttered: > > > In <20020423235147062.AAA735@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>, Philip J. Koenig typed: > > > Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > > The rationale for inclusion in the base system as opposed to ports > > > > > has usually been licensing issues. > > > > By some odd quirk, I've never heard any such rationale. > > > The two examples I can think of off the top of my head are bash and > > > apache. > > Neither of those is in the base system. > Exactly. My understanding as to *why* they are not in the base > system (especially in regards to bash) is because their respective > licensing schemes were not compatible with the FreeBSD license. That's exactly the opposite of what you said, though. I think you meant either "the rationale for EXclusion from the base system" or "the rational for inclusion in the ports tree as opposed to the base system." > I'm not the first person who wished for a 'standard' bash shell to be > part of the base system (ie as root's default shell) but I've been > told in the past it will never happen due to licensing issues. That's correct - it's got to be possible to ship a system commercially. You can't do that with bash, so you have to settle for the standard /bin/sh. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message