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Date:      Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:32:32 -0700
From:      Chad David <davidc@acns.ab.ca>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se>, C J Michaels <cjm2@earthling.net>, charon@seektruth.org, dsyphers@uchicago.edu, imp@village.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness
Message-ID:  <20020128133232.C66369@colnta.acns.ab.ca>
In-Reply-To: <15445.44102.288461.155113@caddis.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:53:42PM -0700
References:  <200201271757.g0RHvTF12944@midway.uchicago.edu> <1617.216.153.202.59.1012240332.squirrel@www1.27in.tv> <20020128192930.GA86720@student.uu.se> <15445.44102.288461.155113@caddis.yogotech.com>

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:53:42PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> > Note that "do not enable firewall" (which is implied by firewall_enable="NO") 
> > is *not* equivalent to "disable firewall".
> 
> Maybe we're having an English language question.
> 
> If something isn't enabled, doesn't that imply that it's disabled?  Last
> I checked, enabled/disabled were binary operations.
> 
> If I enable the clutch in my car, my car moves (assuming it's in gear).
> If I disable it, the power is no longer going to the drive wheels.

True, but the real question is what does firewall_enable actually enable
and disable?  In its current state it enables and disables the adding of
rules as defined by firewall_type (rc.conf(5)).  The docs could be a
little better about what will happen if you set firewall_enable="NO", and
have it compiled into your kernel.

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