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[2603:6000:a401:3a00:6e88:14ff:fea7:590c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i11sm5078206qtj.4.2021.05.29.13.07.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 May 2021 13:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 13.0 packages? To: Mark Millard Cc: "freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org" References: <9FF7E0E7-E666-443C-8CA7-C031EBE60BF6@yahoo.com> <200faa1c-6153-1e2f-d3a1-f76eaf83284a@gmail.com> From: Jason Bacon Message-ID: <050d9b25-772f-4dc8-d92d-d6cd70f0c376@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 15:07:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Fsszw3dfDz4XdX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 5/28/21 11:49 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2021-May-28, at 17:52, Jason Bacon wrote: >=20 >> On 5/26/21 9:40 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >>> On 2021-May-20, at 17:26, Jason Bacon wrote:= >>>> What's the plan for 13.0 powerpc64 packages? >>>> >>>> I have a Mac G5 I was using for port testing, but since upgrading to= 13.0-RELEASE, there haven't been any binary packages for it. Building e= verything from source takes too long. >>> https://pkg.freebsd.org has a link to: >>> =E2=80=A2 FreeBSD:13:powerpc64 ( https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD%3A13= %3Apowerpc64 ) >>> There the dates on things indicate that quarterly is newer >>> than latest. meta.txz is reported as having date/time: >>> 2021-May-20 07:07 >>> (as seen in the time zone I'm in). >>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org shows that jail 130powerpc64 started >>> building on Tue, 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT and reached stopped:done: >>> status, taking an elapsed time of 34:06:48 . It also reports that >>> the server was: pylon . >>> But the linked page: >>> https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds/default:quarterly:130powerpc64:= cdf5bfe36fe5:pylon >>> reports only 1976 ports built of the only 4340 that were queued >>> for that specific build. >>> There was another jail that built far more: 130releng-powerpc64 is >>> indicated to have built 23522 of the 30700 queued. It is listed >>> as started on Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT, having reached a >>> status of stopped:crashed:, with an elapsed time of 73:28:43 . >>> Also pylon. >>> It appears that http://pylon.nyi.freebsd.org is not currently >>> accessible. This limits what can be investigated. >>> I would guess that: >>> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:powerpc64/quarterly/packagesite.tx= z >>> would give a clue what should be accessible via quarterly. >>> It is listed as being 6058988 Bytes in size. >>> =3D=3D=3D >>> Mark Millard >>> marklmi at yahoo.com >>> ( dsl-only.net went >>> away in early 2018-Mar) >> >> Thanks for the status update. I'm actually more curious about the int= entions for the future, though. Are there plans to build current and/or = quarterly packages for 13.0 on a regular rotation? Is it just a matter o= f manpower and hardware to get it rolling? >=20 > I've no direct knowledge. My only clue is evidence left behind. >=20 > The existing pylon package-builds include recent attempts > (this month) and older ones: >=20 > git context: > quarterly 130powerpc64 Tue, 18 May 2021 21:01:05 GMT 34:06:48 > quarterly 122powerpc64 Tue, 18 May 2021 02:34:32 GMT 18:26:26 > default main-powerpc64 Sat, 08 May 2021 08:16:21 GMT 42:38:52 >=20 > svn context: > quarterly 130releng-powerpc64 Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:48:51 GMT 73:57:51 > quarterly 121powerpc64 Sat, 23 Jan 2021 02:59:07 GMT 73:28:43 > default head-powerpc64 Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:07:32 GMT 157:13:50 > default 120powerpc64 Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:37:02 GMT 01:25:55 >=20 > That is all that >=20 > https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds?server=3Dpylon >=20 > shows. It suggests specific single attempts to build: >=20 > quarterly for 13.0 and 12.2 > default [so: latest] for main [so: 14] >=20 > as well as a specific quarterly to go with release/13.0.0 's > distribution (built in early April). (I ignore older here.) >=20 > But it also makes clear that there are fairly long periods > between attempts, so regular builds of updated ports have not > been part of the activity so far. >=20 > So far as I know, all the above are Big Endian for the > context and target, no little endian jails (yet?). >=20 > pylon does seem to still be inaccessible (for looking at build > logs and the like). >=20 >=20 >> Will support for big-endian wane as the focus shifts to LE? >=20 > I'm not aware of evidence left behind beyond the absence > of any little endian jails in the list. If it goes that > direction, it likely would take some time for little > endian to become primary. >=20 >=20 > FYI: > With old PowerMac failures and other issues, my powerpc64 > and 32-bit powerpc activity has largely stopped: it was > only PowerMac based. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > ( dsl-only.net went > away in early 2018-Mar) >=20 Well, the quarterly status report from May 5 lists "Setup powerpc=20 pkgbuilder/ref/universal machines" under works in progress, but doesn't=20 provide any more info than that. I'm hoping to see current packages built for 13.0 at some point. That=20 would enable me to resume port testing on my Mac G5. --=20 Earth is a beta site.