From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Aug 30 3:52:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8169037B43C for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.198]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23775; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA80146; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05440; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <200008301052.DAA05440@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 03:52:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build tools as separate distribution Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Aug 30, 12:30pm, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: } Subject: build tools as separate distribution } What would the good people think of moving gcc, gas, ld etc., as well } as include files and static libraries out of the bin dist and into a } separate distribution, called e.g. prog or devel? There are a lot of } cases (e.g. firewalls, mail gateways) where you neither need nor want } build tools, and PicoBSD is sometimes too radical. This would provide } a sort of middle path between the too-minimalist PicoBSD and the } not-minimalist-enough bin dist we have today. I'm in favor of it and have even done this in the past (other than the static libraries) as a local hack to 2.1. This is pretty easy to implement, though I recall having problems disentangling ld with some non-optional things like ldconfig and ld.so. I also did the same thing for lpr, sendmail, uucp, and the r-commands. The only difficult part is making the necessary changes to sysinstall. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message