From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 17:43:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7549C16A468 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (smtpclu-6.eunet.yu [194.247.192.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032B813C4AE for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-215-138.eunet.yu [213.198.215.138]) by smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5IHhBHH021336; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:12 GMT Message-Id: <200706181743.l5IHhBHH021336@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:43:08 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Gemma Fletcher In-Reply-To: <200706162045.57727.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> References: <200706152133.27118.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> <20070615114110.GA76255@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200706162045.57727.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.2 (GTK+ 2.10.12; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_60,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 1.0 X-AVAS-Spam-Level: xx Cc: Matthias Apitz , doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 Crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:43:32 -0000 On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:45:57 +1000 Gemma Fletcher wrote: > On Friday 15 June 2007 21:41, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El d=C3=ADa Friday, June 15, 2007 a las 09:33:27PM +1000, Gemma Fletche= r=20 > escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > > Can you check if only X or KDE is frozen, or the system at all? > > Try to connect from some other host on the network. > > Try to do some RAM testing as well. > > > > matthias >=20 > Ok my RAM is fine and dandy. I'm not sure how to check to see if > only KDE is frozen. Once is freezes I can't do anything. Not even > reset with ctrl-alt-del. And my keyboard usually goes dead > >=20 > Its just me - so I have no other host to connect from. I did notice > something though that i forgot to mention- it usually only crashes if > I am doing some internet related activity. email, IM'ing etc> If I just do normal stuff like spreadsheeting, or > developing or whatever it seems to run fine. Hello Gemma, Although it really looks like hardware, you can also do this to be 100% sure it isn't software related: (1) Had you used that computer before you have installed FreeBSD? It would be a nice idea to post here the output of your 'dmesg' or /var/log/messages. (2) Have you tried to run a small script as Matthias proposed? (3) Are you sure your ports are up-to-date? If in doubt, install ports-mgmt/portupgrade and run =20 # portversion -v -L =3D (4) If yes, as of "how to check X without KDE", do the following: (a) run 'xinit' without ~/.xinitrc file to avoid starting KDE and or any other window manager; (once you start it, you can go back by 'exit' or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace; please note that you must put the mouse over the window in order to move focus on it); (b) check if there are warning -- (WW) -- or other suspicious messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log; (c) while in pure xinit session, run Firefox or other application that is not KDE/Qt related; (d) run Opera, Skype or similar app that is Qt- but not KDE-related; (e) run KDE applications (Konqueror, KMail, etc.) and report one by one what happened, from (1) to (4e). Maybe it helps to isolate the problem, besides hardware tests :) Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87