From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 14:24:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 154CD95; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEBD91FF7; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 14:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682B3BDC6B; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=mat.cc; h=date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=plouf; bh=Aj8eSUHEOnP 6YqetHNu81/PQtEw=; b=cQKzfs7BKSDAT+j1Duo3F87i9MG6tWxgaoUnmfzGUfV SGEvPyIPwv6qGW2TwqkxmN0Wr5ifHfcnAkXaAcCp2+OHtWGPsoqR1arxz1zf3ruU aK2+gnZ+NlyYxs+AmJ6d/B//x6VlVpgHMUdy3Kleh8FlJ45herTkZyIC/fYhfDo0 = Received: from gw.in.absolight.net (gw-ecl.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gw.in.absolight.net", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42DE0BDC4C; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) by gw.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB3E6158; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogg.in.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43E67302D9F; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 16:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:24:27 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Michelle Sullivan , mva@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:24:34 -0000 +--On 2 septembre 2014 13:47:32 +0200 Michelle Sullivan wrote: | Marcus von Appen wrote: |> Alban Hertroys : |> |>> |>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get |>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand |>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but |>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time. |>> |> |> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those |> issues |> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is |> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago |> instead. It can't work that way. |> |> My 2 cents in this discussion :-). | | Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for | breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2 | weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with | an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was | not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. I still don't see what you have to say about what EOL mean, it's *End Of Life* meaning after, it is dead, and won't exist any more. -- Mathieu Arnold