From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 22:27:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF316A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901CA43D45 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.30.70.180]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A18E1A3C1A for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 805B051424; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:27:58 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051006222758.GB49986@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> <20051006204336.GA36557@neptune.atopia.net> <20051006213326.GA33286@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051006213740.GA37835@neptune.atopia.net> <20051006214904.GB33546@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051006221541.GA38659@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051006221541.GA38659@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:28:00 -0000 --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:15:41PM -0400, Dan Ponte wrote: > > > > > I second that all the way. Personally, I feel that the FreeBSD pr= oject > > > > > is doing too much in the way of appearing "trendy" to attract new= users, > > > > > and it's at the expense of its existing userbase. Not to mention = that > > > > > the old site rendered perfectly in elinks, while the new one is a= mess > > > > > (scrolling all over the place). > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks for sharing your opinion, but you forgot to explain how a new > > > > website will make existing FreeBSD users stop using the operating > > > > system. > > > >=20 > > > > Kris > > > I should have worded that differently. By "expense" I didn't mean that > > > the existing userbase would shrink, but, rather, it would be at a > > > disadvantage to it. Though, I don't think that anyone would have truly > > > seen it as the former. > >=20 > > If you think the new design truly puts you at some kind of > > disadvantage, you should formulate constructive ideas for how to fix > > that. > >=20 > > Kris > It certainly does put me at a disadvantage; see the statements made by > the earlier author. About elinks? That can probably be optimized. It's certainly not clear this is a fundamental problem. > One idea is to revert to the old design, which suited people's needs > just fine. However, I doubt that will happen. Right, because I said "constructive" and that would be the very opposite. Kris --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDRaTuWry0BWjoQKURAoXOAJ45lOfQfZKVCNLiu3ro4OUYh67DEQCg1D5Z /fuwqbuHAhYcKH6R3xYBMmI= =CYjU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R--