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Date:      Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:33:41 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
Cc:        Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/pine4 Makefile (fwd) 
Message-ID:  <200009302133.PAA13677@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:04:49 PDT." <200009301404.e8UE4xU64460@cwsys.cwsent.com> 
References:  <200009301404.e8UE4xU64460@cwsys.cwsent.com>  

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In message <200009301404.e8UE4xU64460@cwsys.cwsent.com> Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes:
: miserably.  My first impression when this happened was that I had a 
: sense that we had a double standard.

The programs that you wanted to remove also implemented a secure
protocol with Kerberos.  That's why they weren't removed.  They are
also 1000 times more widely used than even Pine is.  It would take
some intellegent hacking to make it so that they would only use the
secure protocol, or that you had to explicitly request the insecure
one.  No one has done this hacking yet.  If they were less useful,
less widely deployed, then maybe we could get away with deleting them
completely.  Sadly, they aren't, so we can't.

PINE, on the other hand, is just a mail agent.  It should be flagged
as being dangerous and people need to jump through hoops to install
it.

Finally, we did kill setuidperl a while back, did we not?

Warner


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