From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 2 23:14:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05368 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (banshee.cs.uow.edu.au [130.130.188.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05340 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au) Received: (from ncb05@localhost) by banshee.cs.uow.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA15663; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:13:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:13:38 +1000 (EST) From: Nicholas Charles Brawn X-Sender: ncb05@banshee.cs.uow.edu.au To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Linux and Intel's annoucement In-Reply-To: <19981003003108.A12411@execpc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If this thread is going to become productive any time soon, ppl need to start contributing to solutions rather than simply airing perceived problems. As has been stated time and time again, FreeBSD is open source and open development, if you think somethings wrong with it - you're free to go ahead and fix it yourself. However, much of this isn't to do with source code issues, but rather marketing issues. A lot of criticism has been directed towards Walnut Creek, and many people have said "if you want a more commercial freebsd distribution, go out there and do it". This is where the discussion typically ends. There are many out there willing to point out flaws with the way Walnut Creek is handling distribution and whatnot of FreeBSD, but very few are willing to translate that into action and do something about it. So for those of you out there who fit into the former profile, and are quick to point out flaws without providing solutions, I would ask you to be quiet until you have something worth saying. If you want to make a difference, you are free to go ahead and do so. But do not ask those out there who ARE working on solutions to do that which *you* are not willing to do yourself. Nick -- Email: ncb@poboxes.com - http://www.poboxes.com/ncb Key fingerprint = DE 30 33 D3 16 91 C8 8D A7 F8 70 03 B7 77 1A 2A "When in doubt, ask someone wiser than yourself..." -unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message