From nobody Wed Mar 23 14:52:23 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B131A3E6DE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KNrtN0MKCz4llQ for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 14:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mfrb4TKXrBtkJ8AENRzpW7Gq1XTHtybbKguBe3k2LPg=; b=nvEhvPkVp+2elRXh2HKrMcfiFP 1GtUIbiaP2MyCadsE2umQNqE4IZeVMS+0CMRIHxOI8WN1HCUtCZunmsK9u0kHcKx6LWwyxAla1cBY p0EWUpMieIpQvc3DCTEgiUq9NNQgwgPcNC/NSRKtA0uH8YbqD1h5GY60v45Lx376KA3YiAWTMi+xw CWhG8KiiCmJyzCRMvT+goQjNqzA1fU7niDMYHB1JWaqBXm8yM7C+9rsfoUgl4GJZ3KBq2Zm/MfvNh Di9pefTqzthPd6mPs6wCeYFli+tVsJ3dBiBMtsv44SiX5nHEnTx0E5KHrEyehNu63qI7nvPLPL/a2 2cty3g3Q==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id R97DBC-000D3X-3G for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 16:52:24 +0200 Message-ID: <7f34f094-d876-fc4f-e361-cd3984e6f1c3@tinka.africa> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 16:52:23 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Subject: Re: Why don't you eat your own dog food? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <43cf17f7-ac44-39d6-5a63-838edfd678d1@tinka.africa> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KNrtN0MKCz4llQ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=nvEhvPkV; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 3/23/22 15:15, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > I did switch all server from Linux to FreeBSD (jails) over a decade > ago. I did run FreeBSD as my sole desktop system until I recently > changed job place. I did run triple boot (FreeBSD, Linux, Windows) > laptop mainly using FreeBSD - while I had more generic laptop, i.e. > until I got Dell XPS 2-in-1... on which I had GhostBSD (FreeBSD > clone), but didn't use it much... > > That said, I'm not FreeBSD developer, just a humble FreeBSD user. Indeed, same here. I'm sure all of us have gone through it both for servers and desktops/laptops. On the personal front, as someone that started out on Windows, moved to Linux (KDE), but runs IOS, IOS XE, IOS XR, Junos and EOS for work, the best experience I could enjoy from a usable, brain-dead, simple GUI that still gave me a solid UNIX world is macOS. But for server-based services we offer to customers that we require be solid throughout the year, I moved from Linux back in 2006 and over to FreeBSD. I've never looked back. Everything has its place. The adage of "Gone are the days when men were men and wrote their own drivers" couldn't be more true for me in 2022. I am old and lazy, I don't want anything that stands in the way of my meat and wine :-). Mark.