From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 27 19:14:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FDB106564A for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giffunip@tutopia.com) Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CD628FC14 for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:14:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.192] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:14:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2011 19:14:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 651614.55983.bm@omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39409 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Aug 2011 19:14:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1314472447; bh=iTGj2bbav/5TSW+rYvA4aNXpbvlUJGLo477LGtGn4H4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1vMZM/7fmRkL1UeeYfHEpRzYG189TN9dXkId28YOxIyYYhwbIfGkUz39ku835+V4Jg3e1pZ3B57G40+PUwcynj9KShMASjdVWk/cRMoV3VMcF8FkyY2chyXb1SvnDzQOcaz72yrtqW23jfFKlYfZb2GgSUG8L6p2RnfvTg8OMFw= X-YMail-OSG: kR9is.0VM1mvKPDYhcG2Oh40shw2IOVQI2QWm8_D4oZ1QUw WH..q.grL4wj3wFXzzS0rLx6q10JzwbJN9VKIsMMUqqif1LZjXAYDqo.Pk4K FZNSuaP7aCvhtJ07lymUWeqF97M8kfzcenpclRNAZ5JRXi20Yp0vV9aYfz8o ZnIwBJgR764lRDAiwLUGOW5ZEPsuMithgN7Uw8jsuHG.fG4EwlZE2ozPBz47 gbnrE4XyjlrZZSt4F1SrtKIoBOF6fE_FqJ0OUCAJzX6nIuVfKf_586v5xwyP By1lz2IFDasy6tcYhSkT7PPCrI2ERvcisjjv_EcP13UAf99Fw70sVFPjDDHv FJyC.bv_K0v9Tq4ZZDwTYjex8MVyTC0CdFj4ZCJjHzKxACkqytmv3uOsiXRF z3_q5DonEVpLz.c8K4vxaX40rQjA__0h9kOR9sMrhmmddH7F2P8C_6b5Fc46 Q.s0- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:14:06 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 Message-ID: <1314472446.30399.YahooMailClassic@web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" To: Julien Laffaye In-Reply-To: <4E593932.8060303@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How about finally replacing GNATS? (was Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: giffunip@tutopia.com List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:14:08 -0000 --- On Sat, 8/27/11, Julien Laffaye wrote: ... > > > > I know this is not the first time someone brings the > > subject, we even have a Wiki page about it: > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Bugzilla > > We need someone to do the job. And it is not an "easy" > migration in the sene that we need to keep old PRs, > and if you take more time than you thought, everyone > would yell at you (we need a bugtracker > for releases management, ...). > Yes, this is a consequence of GNATS being "obsolete": newer bug tracking systems have not kept the conversion tools updated as there are not many users for it anymore. We can always make drastic workarounds if the migration tools take too long or simply don't work. Here are two options: 1) Leave both systems running for a while: stop opening new PRs in GNATS: but leave it running for reference. Kill GNATS after two major releases. 2) Fix all bugs and make a perfect release (OK, not very realistic but theoretically possible ;-) ). > So, manpower, as usual :-) > Yes, and unfortunately the problem keeps growing :(. Pedro.