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On 9/14/14, 2:32 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
> Technically, I agree with you that people should write portable shell
> scripts,
> and use #!/usr/bin/env bash rather than #!/bin/bash.
>
> Pushing that behavior upstream is not always practical these days, where
> FreeBSD is in the minority, while Linux and MacOS X are in the vast
> majority of where
> people are doing development and learning how to write shell scripts these
> days.
>
>
I agree with Craig here.
we can keep our code "pure" but the standard shell these days for 
everyone except us is /bin/bash.
There is nothing wrong with FreeSBD deciding that an industry standard 
should be adopted..

While I don't like it when people code stuff at work in bash instead 
of sh, I have to admit it has a lot of
advantages, and I can't really stop them..  It's getting more and more 
common so to some extent we should
probably hide our pride a bit and look at bash (and maybe vim) and 
giving them better standard support.

mailing the symlink is a really small thing.