From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 13 7: 7: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nwlynx.network-lynx.net (nwlynx.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1974437B422; Sun, 13 May 2001 07:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (doze-1.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.106]) by nwlynx.network-lynx.net (8.11.1/8.9.3/Who.Cares) with ESMTP id f4DE6jx27295; Sun, 13 May 2001 08:06:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3AFE94CF.2CD5AB51@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 08:06:07 -0600 From: Don Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Young Cc: Stefan Parvu , Kris Kennaway , Rahul Siddharthan , Kathy Quinlan , Sue Blake , N6REJ , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving References: <016d01c0dba9$62e67400$0300a8c0@oracle> <3AFE87BF.E2A53BC0@Silver-Lynx.com> <019101c0dbb3$8d169430$0300a8c0@oracle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm on an "anti-CVS" trip at present after experiencing nothing but > problems with it. > Seems a surprising number of experienced operators I've spoken to > share that view as well. > Does anyone have good experiences with it, or is it simply something > that a few people use because its available ?? > I think CVSup is _essential_ and is an excellent tool. The only thing I _don't_ ever do is try to bump it a branch, i.e. 3.x to 4.x. I'm sure it would work and the files that need to be hand-updated are well documented, but I don't have the patience to do that. I'd rather just install a raw -RELEASE from CDs and update from there. [Of course, I have a T1 and a dozen machines to park my userland files on...] I've rarely had problems with CVSup itself except that some servers are slower than others. A web page that showed loading on the mirrors would be really nice. If a 'make buildworld' does happen to crash, just go back and CVSup again a few hours later. Even if your sources are out of whack for that time, remember that all of your binaries are still good until you 'make installworld' over them. -- Don Wilde http://www.Silver-Lynx.com Silver Lynx Embedded Microsystems Architects 2218 Southern Bl. Ste. 12 Rio Rancho, NM 87124 505-891-4175 FAX 891-4185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message