From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Dec 15 15:51:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32ABC81276 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09FBB14 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AFEDDC81275; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8C6C81274 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44A39B11 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id u144so7295738wmu.0 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:51:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JiwCq6ab8Uy1wPX8iF6/gOK5uAfxyc0d6/iIMf4ZUNM=; b=YNqjqCtBRf80XF/bs5biM8wsoQttyOVF9iPd1WL2+2GKmapGim8ltLlKo9zdH1hZ/j ++Y4xIfUpwHTpJnbbjz8kaZ6BkZifqpKupIHAj27sGyPDwNt07/N7hQTI8s9WAAXybBY UFqllXSfyEoEGIEZ9SxVzCVhgxEsgiZ7DMjdcRwA8S9SCGB1Cr7u7+8Lnxay2fgfHfia B8ygEZ/S8sJ59bBfkHcjiebNcKtnc/xneJKzJz/yGKI6sluameVVa0xyNXcOXnmptYjC 9GSRU5RvU+YGOUCr0NfG8g/+id9tGK0TWuaTnLvPzL8387nnLOTr6nWSUiRig7Rgdl3O 4sCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JiwCq6ab8Uy1wPX8iF6/gOK5uAfxyc0d6/iIMf4ZUNM=; b=KhO6ZRatV4TiO50hpC2vGw6Y0fQKb6yfbOp1QRbcLqgn0m5IlyhVIFw+d1kaN9a+4A 87pSNYHlc50pjJLidGRDienO3kPQVF1MlkJTH4Om4USuczHFbWcqLrVa8pQ7PiNcBzVq qvsUQ2uU7bUtOZbPobOFuU0D4guzYgj7Ypw26+DPoLLDtc+3ohSE8atVZjDHfxyECl7i xeiB5qa/j9ajJ846euR58wN4MFoXw9QMs0uIM9uOsB7+h1LUUCqRBvRIQOaIyFhHR+K0 2r27NZxUweJVBltjH/68e/p1jB+hPJPYs3evQbu2R7Dr2LiO9DjvsxH8ERKf1OgmGfSC 8Wgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIxlwk5tzT5vhqsJ+nOmmMCiZSGTKwecfbMW3la0DukP5dxcoNPFIHt+lNQCT8Oaw== X-Received: by 10.28.95.85 with SMTP id t82mr2029135wmb.56.1481817102114; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cl6sm2612147wjc.10.2016.12.15.07.51.40 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:51:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:39 +0000 From: RW To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <20161215155139.4a3d6033@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20161208085926.GC2691@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:51:44 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:40:46 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Matt Smith wrote: > > > On Dec 08 05:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote: > >> > >> Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is > >> an outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project > >> itself. So use it or die. Not a nice situation. > > > > People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed > > from the handbook but have met with resistance. > > Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no > equivalent replacement. Except maybe portupgrade, which has legacy > problems like poor default options. That's a very minor issue, and an absurd excuse to rule-out portupgrade.