From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 29 19:44:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7BA16A400 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmseck-lists@netcologne.de) Received: from smtp1.netcologne.de (smtp1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6B843D45 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:44:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tmseck-lists@netcologne.de) Received: from laurel.tmseck.homedns.org (xdsl-213-196-249-42.netcologne.de [213.196.249.42]) by smtp1.netcologne.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 1506538D5C for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:44:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 1995 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2006 19:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hardy.tmseck.homedns.org) (192.168.1.2) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2006 19:44:50 -0000 Received: from hardy.tmseck.homedns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hardy.tmseck.homedns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k2TJiQHx047828; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:44:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tmseck-lists@netcologne.de) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by hardy.tmseck.homedns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k2TJiIKr047827; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:44:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tmseck-lists@netcologne.de) X-Authentication-Warning: hardy.tmseck.homedns.org: thomas set sender to tmseck-lists@netcologne.de using -f Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:44:18 +0200 From: Thomas-Martin Seck To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Message-ID: <20060329194418.GC2956@hardy.tmseck.homedns.org> References: <200603291801.k2TI1HLG021666@hardy.tmseck.homedns.org> <442AD29F.5070807@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <442AD29F.5070807@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: a private site in Germany X-PGP-KeyID: DF46EE05 X-PGP-Fingerprint: A38F AE66 6B11 6EB9 5D1A B67D 2444 2FE1 DF46 EE05 X-Attribution: tms Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USE_GCC vs. packaging X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:44:30 -0000 * [LoN]Kamikaze (LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de): > The issue has been discussed before, the problem that a lang/gccXX > package is only a dependency if it was used for building. Previous > builds linked those libraries statically into programs causing larger > binaries, but also making the built package independent from the compiler. No, static vs. dynamic does not seem be the problem. I suspect that the linker now behaves different, pulling in dependencies it did not pull in before. This is from a fltk-dillo where both fltk2 and dillo where built with gcc-3.4.6_20060221: % file /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.9.2, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped % ldd /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi: libglib-12.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-12.so.3 (0x280a5000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x280c7000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x28185000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2818d000) libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x28190000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x281a1000) libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x281af000) libc_r.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (0x281ca000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x28281000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x282ae000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x282b6000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x28350000) libfreetype.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 (0x28352000) libz.so.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x283b7000) libexpat.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 (0x283c4000) This version of fltk-dillo can be distributed via a package and runs without issues on a vanilla 4.11 system. This is from a fltk-dillo where both fltk2 and dillo where built with the latest gcc-3.4.6 from ports: % ldd /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.9.2, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped % ldd /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi /usr/local/libexec/dillo/dpi/downloads/downloads.dpi: libglib-12.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-12.so.3 (0x280a4000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x280c6000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x28184000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2818c000) libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x2818f000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x281a0000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd4.11/3.4.6/libstdc++.so.6 (0x281ae000) libm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2 (0x28230000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd4.11/3.4.6/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x2824b000) libc_r.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 (0x28253000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x2830a000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x28337000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2833f000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x283d9000) libfreetype.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 (0x283db000) libz.so.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x28440000) libexpat.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 (0x2844d000) This version of fltk-dillo can no longer be distributed via a package because the runtime dependency information for gcc34 is missing from the package. I do not care why the lang/gcc ports behave the way they do, but I do care about packaging being broken.