From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 04:53:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E9C16A403 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE99943D70 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adamlsd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so81354wxd for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=obLAmUoCyAWcL1gyQg/YkUE9/FyZKXMfDF50NipPGZzXj4DNUoeHZTz47jkXNfalSR4l6rZ3q+DRwFV1ShioPxU7yZHOIUAt3dhav7E//5KyIA3b5vcFGxkug5vyMbvqjkAttm7ijMhWJ1mk42A5UtmsUpvOi29+ailMi4YSYjQ= Received: by 10.70.37.12 with SMTP id k12mr560573wxk; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.245.126.51? ( [130.245.126.51]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h34sm437311wxd.2006.09.26.21.53.17; Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:53:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <45125885.2060209@401.cx> References: <20060920104047.GA49442@splork.wirewater.yow> <20060920185542.GE1075@zaphod.nitro.dk> <45125885.2060209@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Martin Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:53:22 -0400 To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Sender: Adam Martin Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Party X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:53:21 -0000 On 2006 Sep 21 , at 05:16, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: > Adam Martin wrote: > [snip] >> Boy, between spam, sshd-bruteforce attempts, and tons of other >> stuff.... the 'net has become such an annoying place these days. >> Every >> year this stuff seems to just get worse... *sigh* All this net-trash >> gives me a headache. What a waste of technology, resources, and >> bandwidth. > > What bothers me is that all these probes, scans, spams etc still > succeeds in some cases, otherwise nobody would be doing them. > As long as people click on spamlinks and leave their systems open to > automated intrusion, we will have to live with this kind of behavior. > But, as you say, it is a damn waste. I think it's just that I pine for better days. Just 5 years ago, this behaviour was restricted mostly to Windoze systems. 5 years before that, the notion of net-wide "evil traffic" as a constant background noise was far fetched. And just 5 years before that, 15 years ago, the notion of loads of background evil traffic was, as far as I recall, appalling. After the whole of that spam episode, combined with several spikes in local ssh-bruteforce attempts... I just felt despondent. I still do. It seems like the whole 'net has gone to hell in a handbasket. So as I said, I pine for better days. But I think I am a curmudgeon these days :-) Regards, -- Adam David Alan Martin