From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 12:28:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E701065687 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F193A8FC0C for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A408A.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.64.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KCS0f7084094; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:28:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KCRsrQ053049; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KCRwSu057030; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:28:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200806201228.m5KCRwSu057030@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Wilko Bulte From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:03:48 +0200." <20080620120348.GA51329@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:58 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:28:05 -0000 Wilko Bulte wrote: > Quoting Julian Stacey, who wrote on Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 01:58:12PM +0200 .. > > > From: John Kozubik > > > I'm not trying to discount thier efforts, but Adobe makes an honest to god > > > release version of flash for Linux, and FreeBSD runs linux binaries very > > > > "honest to god" != Binary Crap ! > > No flash on my machines without public source, checkable for security. > > (Unless maybe run in a jail/chroot) > > That is your view, others could very well be more pragmatic. I would rather > have the choice to have a *full working* binary-only Flash than what we > have now. Agreed. Free choice for all. Personaly Flash is too much of a PITA for me with all its problems, ever changing solutions on versions tools archs eg amd64, & risks. > I appreciate that we would strongly prefer public source access, but I doubt > that will ever happen for Flash. Could well be. Similar reasons I totaly avoid Micro$oft, whereas some use wine or native MS. > I guess you also have not inspected the > full source of (say) OO for security flaws ;-) True, I only read sources to tweak code or where manuals are bad. But fact of sources being public must discourage much evil minded coding hiding in plain view ready for dicovery, where alerts will follow. Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 text are spam.