From nobody Fri Mar 6 21:48:59 2026 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fSKmh2qWTz6TWly; Fri, 06 Mar 2026 21:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "fuz.su", Issuer "fuz.su" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fSKmg6dWHz3lyZ; Fri, 06 Mar 2026 21:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 626Lmxrc081275 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Mar 2026 22:48:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 626LmxTn081274; Fri, 6 Mar 2026 22:48:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 22:48:59 +0100 From: Robert Clausecker To: Daniel Engberg Cc: Joseph Mingrone , Alexey Dokuchaev , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 8bd89ab595cb - main - deskutils/qownnotes: the port had been updated to version 26.3.3 Message-ID: References: <69aa7cc7.1e357.86a2325@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <467d5bb3-f7ac-4733-98b4-b011050b5aae@FreeBSD.org> <0d07fa34-2f60-4d6d-bc68-3dc1ba73cd33@FreeBSD.org> <867bro4tbu.fsf@asn.ftfl.ca> <9f451bbf-31fc-4bf4-b545-efd2036766e2@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9f451bbf-31fc-4bf4-b545-efd2036766e2@FreeBSD.org> X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fSKmg6dWHz3lyZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Am Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 09:42:09PM +0100 schrieb Daniel Engberg: > Agreed, standardized formatting helps a lot and streamlines the effort for > everyone which is why we have these guidelines are used train people to be > aware of and actually apply them. They're not set in stone because sometimes > it may simply break the port however one could argue that you're likely > doing something wrong in the first please leading up to it but that's > besides the point in this case. However when you deliberately go out your > way and break it which both Porters Handbook and tools tells you is wrong > and ignore it cases issues for everyone in the long run and organizational > if everyone starts doing their own thing. Submit PRs to Porters Handbook if > you have an idea that you might think will improve things so everyone is > using the same "template" otherwise why do we even have Porters Handbook and > bother training people by referring to it? We have Porter's Handbook as a guideline for how to do things, so you have an idea for what things to try. It has some mandatory rules and many non-mandatory recommendations. This is a great thing, as most of the time these recommendations are useful, but some times they are not and must be disregarded as per maintainer's discretion. No, we should not throw the guidelines out just because they are not black and white (i.e. not "must" / "must not"). The world is not black and white and we are all reasonable adults who can use our own judgement to apply rules and guidelines. Please respect when others do so. You are always free to recommend that things be done different (as the handbook does), but unless a strict rule of policy is violated, you should not go shout at people, but rather accept that they made a choice within their capacity. Let's all be adults and trust each other with our choices. Yours, Robert Clausecker -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an encoding-agnostic world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments