From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jan 5 2:13:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692A137B405 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 02:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B879C43ED1 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 02:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h05ADXTJ095294; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:13:33 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:13:33 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd running on a cdrom In-Reply-To: <20030105.001255.53237870.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: <20030105131030.X264@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <20030102220350.5971.qmail@web41013.mail.yahoo.com> <20030105001014.GA76756@cs.huji.ac.il> <20030105.001255.53237870.imp@bsdimp.com> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: MWL> : CD-ROM is not what I would call a reliable media. May I suggest MWL> : booting from the network (PXE) or booting from a hard disk and MWL> : mounting the partitions read-only? MWL> MWL> It is usually the case that solid-state media, properly configured, is MWL> more reliable. CF cards have a TrueIDE mode that allows them to be MWL> accessed as a disk on the IDE bus. Timing Solutions uses this MWL> technology in all its embedded systems and we've noticed a huge MWL> reduction in RMAs from the previous generation of systems with IDE MWL> hard disks in them. MWL> MWL> I'd suspect that cdrom drives will break more often than hard disks in MWL> harsh environments. Well, while I'd certainly agree with you regarding reliability (BTW, how many _read_ cycles do contemporary flashdisks support?), there is at least one major question: where to boot from? especially in the case of standalone moving-parts-free router ;-) Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message