From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215FB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C70443D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DLYcUQ007184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:39 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DLYafo007181; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:36 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:36 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:48 -0000 --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >=20 > On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: >=20 > >Aperez wrote: > >>Hello everybdody > >> > >>I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that=20 > >>interview Linus mentioned the following: > >> > >>"On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of=20 > >>having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If=20 > >>you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you= =20 > >>get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get=20 > >>NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about=20 > >>different things." > > > >Here's irony posed as a question: > > > >... and how many distros of Linux are there? >=20 > I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. =20 > The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those=20 > separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and=20 > default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, whereas= =20 > from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very=20 > similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and=20 > have separate "management" teams behind them. While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. >=20 > The Linux distros keep getting their kernel workings from one group=20 > (even if they tweak them). The BSDs do not. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLHsbTXoRwEYo9IRAuzOAJ91+yPpw/vXjARo9Tvdo2Z5i/rYhgCfbl1a Fu/d67ZYMiNNRNYRPPlFBXg= =SjZE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy--