From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 18 20:39:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06889 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-114.camalott.com [208.229.74.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06882 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03223; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:38:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from joelh) To: Chuck Robey Cc: ben@rosengart.com, Gary Kline , Nik Clayton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d, and changes to /etc/rc? References: From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 18 Nov 1998 22:38:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: Chuck Robey's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:49:59 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: <86n25oguuf.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It seems to me that what we ought to be asking for are the hooks, so > those of us that *do* like run-levels *can* have them. I don't > think we should force everyone to have such a thing, but wouldn't it > be possible to have the run levels *without* requiring those that > think they are evil to have to implement a changed startup? > I'm asking for a system where the legacy rc is there for those who > want it (and would probably be installed by default) but a system of > run-levels and rc.d type stuff would be feasible. Such a thing > could then even be a port. I think such an approach would > short-circuit most of the complaints, and let the idea move forward > with coding. It appears that coders are the main people who don't like SysV's init. Your suggestion would mean that the coders and ports maintainers would have to include support for two systems, and most of them only use one themselves. -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message