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Subject: Re: FreeBSD handles leapsecond correctly 
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In message <m3zmmdildp.fsf@merlin.emma.line.org>, Matthias Andree writes:
>"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
>
>> "We don't know what will break if we drop leap-seconds"
>>
>> 	We know very well what can break:  Only systems which relate
>> 	the position of extra-terrestial objects to UTC time can break.
>>
>> 	These devices are called antennas and telescopes and they are
>> 	operated by scientists and technicians who should be more than
>> 	able to figure out how to deal with this.
>
>The same argument can come back in your face, computer scientists and
>engineers should be able to figure out how to deal with time tracking
>earth rotation, you're tracking all sorts of things...

99.9% of the computers are used by people who are not scientists and
engineers.

99.999% of the computers do not track extra-terrestial objects.

Wanna bet how the cost balances ?

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