From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 19 15:38:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF2D106564A for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.ferreira@vipway.com.br) Received: from artemis.vipway.net.br (artemis.vipway.net.br [189.51.64.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355B38FC0C for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.ferreira@vipway.com.br) Received: (qmail 34184 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2009 12:11:47 -0300 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 34177, pid: 34181, t: 0.1365s scanners: clamav: 0.95/m:50/d:9214 Received: from unknown (HELO eng001) (189.115.233.170) by artemis.vipway.net.br with ESMTP; 19 Jun 2009 12:11:47 -0300 From: "ricardo" To: , "'Michal'" References: <735E59909DEB44AF92825EA7C65CF430@ionicoffice.ionic.co.uk><00265389C30B444288C246DF37651D0C249024DD1B@server-02.playsafesa.com><6101e8c40906190408h5b6a4496td12e2b9e4872459e@mail.gmail.com> <4A3B9A2A.3090908@onda.com.br> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:12:12 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acnw6pdoY96TYgsQRTefAiMlK/V8nQABWmQQ In-Reply-To: <4A3B9A2A.3090908@onda.com.br> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, demuel@thephinix.org Subject: RES: Open Vs Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:38:57 -0000 All simply rocks...be xBSD... be Linux, be *nix... whatever.. Just use the right tool for a specific need... We are running Free, Open and Net....and some decent Linux such as Debian, Red Hat among others...Love all of them... -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] Em nome de Giancarlo Razzolini Enviada em: sexta-feira, 19 de junho de 2009 11:01 Para: Michal Cc: misc@openbsd.org; demuel@thephinix.org; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Assunto: Re: Open Vs Free BSD Michal escreveu: > It wasn't an argument or a versus anything. It was just a question relating > to what he had said and the truth in it and the two OS's being used for > different reasons. That's all. No rage, no debate or looking for any winner! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of > demuel@thephinix.org > Sent: 19 June 2009 12:42 > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Open Vs Free BSD > > Oh why can't this versus this versus that never dies? There had been > raging debate about which OSes is much better compared to the others since > time immemorial. Sure, each one has its own merits over the others and > vice versa. So why feeding this issue up since up to this very moment, > there is no winner. > > >> and the security is in netbsd: >> >> http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?security+8+NetBSD-5.0 >> http://www.netbsd.org/~elad/recent/recent06.pdf >> >> On 6/19/09, Ivan Voras wrote: >> >>> Kim Attree wrote: >>> >>> >>>> NetBSD runs on just about anything. That's it's primary goal. Since I >>>> don't >>>> have any weird hardware, I've never had a use for NetBSD. >>>> >>> I don't use NetBSD either but some recent development that come from >>> that camp are very interesting: >>> >>> * Journalling UFS ("smart" journalling, not gjournal) >>> * PUFFS (BSD implementation of FUSE-like system [file system in >>> userland]) >>> * They had Xen dom0 and domU for years >>> * They are starting to show decent results in SMP support, including a >>> new scheduler (a bit similar to ULE); their GENERIC has SMP included >>> * Possibly superpages, I'm not sure how to parse "Merged amd64 and i386 >>> pmap. Large pages are always used if available" >>> * I think they are working on their own ZFS port >>> * They have ported or reimplemented Linux LVM (read+write+admin) >>> >>> There are of course other things; see for example >>> http://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-5/NetBSD-5.0.html >>> >>> I have a feeling the project has been revitalized in the last few years. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> > > > The words you chose from the subject to the bottom of your e-mail, were the wrong ones "Open Vs Free BSD" for me, and for most here, is literally OpenBSD versus FreeBSD. The answer is: There is winner. The reason I started using OpenBSD is a very personal one, and it generally is for most of us here. Even in business the decisions are often made with the heart. So, you've got to try. I would never use OpenBSD in my laptop, because it doesn't do everything i need on my laptop. The same way i would never use ubuntu on my firewall, because it won't do neither. My 2 cents, -- Giancarlo Razzolini http://lock.razzolini.adm.br Linux User 172199 Red Hat Certified Engineer no:804006389722501 Verify:https://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/current/ Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 OpenBSD 4.5 Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85 _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"