From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 27 22:06:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6D09C3BB0 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB708158F for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-38-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.38.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AFD42781F; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:06:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t7RM62bL002114; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:06:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:06:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Quartz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stop using a SATA drive Message-Id: <20150828000602.b9a288a8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55DEFC74.3040609@sneakertech.com> References: <20150824214252.53aa04c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <55DEF869.1010202@sneakertech.com> <55DEFB5A.3080408@FreeBSD.org> <55DEFC74.3040609@sneakertech.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:06:05 -0000 On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:03:00 -0400, Quartz wrote: > > FreeBSD runs on all sorts of different kit from all sorts of different > > providers, hence the uniform interface that Apple has achieved is much > > harder. > > I can understand that argument for physically powering down a device, > but whether or not a particular item shows up in a particular directory > is entirely a software issue, isn't it? Yes - mostly the software inside the device, which we commonly call firmware. On USB, and to a certain extent, on SATA, the device identifies to the system and enters a communication with it: stating what device class, who built it, which model, what capabilities are available and so on. If the firmware is able to delete that connection (which is, after all, a _data_ exchange, not primarily an electric connection), the OS would act accordingly by removing the device file entry. But on the other hand, what's wrong with _ignoring_ a device file you don't want to have anything to do with? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...