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Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:57:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 00:56:56 +0000 (UTC) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Yves_Gu=C3=A9rin?= Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Yves_Gu=C3=A9rin?= To: Graham Perrin , Mark Millard Cc: "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <481759339.393522.1754614616320@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <7d8a6b67-700c-47ac-8484-d6a45961a9c4@freebsd.org> <2ca670e7-b6e9-4d28-b3b8-029758db7735@gmail.com> <1707775018.328368.1754600078502@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Deletion of just installed port-packages (excluding base): success List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_393521_1820001025.1754614616318" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.24260 YMailNorrin X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bylwt6GNnz3fvl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] ------=_Part_393521_1820001025.1754614616318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear, I did it on all my servers (pkg clean after an update, automatic script) an= d as usual forget to do it on my own laptop :) Regards, Yves Guerin=20 Le jeudi 7 ao=C3=BBt 2025 =C3=A0 16:47:01 UTC=E2=88=925, Mark Millard <= marklmi@yahoo.com> a =C3=A9crit : =20 =20 On Aug 7, 2025, at 14:41, Mark Millard wrote: > On Aug 7, 2025, at 13:54, Yves Gu=C3=A9rin wrote: >=20 >> Dear >>=20 >>> Personally, I would rarely clean the cache >>=20 >> I did everytime I need space in /var so not desirable for my point of vi= ew. >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Yves Guerin >=20 > It might be that what was listed was only ones "that have > been superseded by newer versions, and any packages that > are no longer provided". (From "man pkg-clean" in my > environment.) Although, thnking about it, main ( and stable/* ) can have superseded versions of some or all pkg's twice or so a day. Removal at that rate, if not updating at that rate, might not be the best of ideas. So not cleaning automatically when not updating the FreeBSD-* may be what is appropriate. >> Le jeudi 7 ao=C3=BBt 2025 =C3=A0 16:23:03 UTC=E2=88=924, Graham Perrin <= grahamperrin@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 07/08/2025 16:57, Mark Millard wrote: >>> =E2=80=A6 Actually the file indicates that /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-*.pkg >>> files would be deleted by the "pkg clean" (if -n had not been >>> provided): >>>=20 >>> QUOTE >>> The following package files will be deleted: >>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-libexecinfo-dev-lib32-15.snap20250715051601~2b1b= 4b0e75.pkg >>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-telnet-man-15.snap20241026125659.pkg >>> . . . >>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-bsdinstall-dbg-15.snap20250720000631.pkg >>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-libexecinfo-dbg-15.snap20250720000631.pkg >>> The cleanup will free 1 GiB >>> END QUOTE >>>=20 >>> I do not know if this would be desired vs. not. >>>=20 >>> =E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> Personally, I would rarely clean the cache.=20 >> I think, we're partly experimenting with what's possible; not necessaril= y what's recommended (or desirable).=20 >> I might demonstrate the effect of -fqy but that's certainly not a recomm= endation; and so on.=20 >> HTH =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com =20 ------=_Part_393521_1820001025.1754614616318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear,

I di= d it on all my servers (pkg clean after an update, automatic script) and as= usual forget to do it on my own laptop :)

Regards,

Yves Guerin


=20
=20
Le jeudi 7 ao=C3=BBt 2025 =C3=A0 16:47:01 UTC=E2=88= =925, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> a =C3=A9crit :


=20 =20
On Aug 7, 2025, at 14:41, Mark Millar= d <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 7, 2025, at 13:54, Yves Gu=C3=A9rin <yvesguerin@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>> Dear
>>
>= ;>> Personally, I would rarely clean the cache
>= >
>> I did everytime I need space in /var so no= t desirable for my point of view.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>&g= t; Yves Guerin
>
> It might be t= hat what was listed was only ones "that have
> been su= perseded by newer versions, and any packages that
> ar= e no longer provided". (From "man pkg-clean" in my
> e= nvironment.)

Although, thnking about i= t, main ( and stable/* ) can have
superseded versions of = some or all pkg's twice or so a day.
Removal at that rate= , if not updating at that rate, might
not be the best of = ideas. So not cleaning automatically
when not updating th= e FreeBSD-* may be what is appropriate.


>> Le jeudi 7 ao=C3= =BBt 2025 =C3=A0 16:23:03 UTC=E2=88=924, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit :
&g= t;>
>>
>> On 07/08/202= 5 16:57, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> =E2=80=A6 Actua= lly the file indicates that /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-*.pkg
= >>> files would be deleted by the "pkg clean" (if -n had not been<= br clear=3D"none">>>> provided):
>>> >>> QUOTE
>>> The foll= owing package files will be deleted:
>>> /var/ca= che/pkg/FreeBSD-libexecinfo-dev-lib32-15.snap20250715051601~2b1b4b0e75.pkg<= br clear=3D"none">>>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-telnet-man-15.snap202= 41026125659.pkg
>>> . . .
>= >> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-bsdinstall-dbg-15.snap20250720000631.pkg>>> /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-libexecinfo-dbg-15.snap= 20250720000631.pkg
>>> The cleanup will free 1 G= iB
>>> END QUOTE
>>> =
>>> I do not know if this would be desired vs. = not.
>>>
>>> =E2=80= =A6
>>
>> Personally, I wo= uld rarely clean the cache.
>> I think, we're part= ly experimenting with what's possible; not necessarily what's recommended (= or desirable).
>> I might demonstrate the effect o= f -fqy but that's certainly not a recommendation; and so on.
>> HTH


<= br clear=3D"none">=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com

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