From nobody Wed Mar 23 23:33:47 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784BB1A38149; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KP4S43YD1z3kN9; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalescott@shaw.ca) Received: from shw-obgw-4002a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.250]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id X1w7n16z0gTZYXAU8nQgh1; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:33:48 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=shaw.ca; s=s20180605; t=1648078428; bh=lldHKq65c9uavBt4HjNip4CBC58A1unibIw4rqFIHVo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject; b=eNh/+MIHfcasa/+u3Hl5o07RVPRXLAbmqYnMg5sIXC59cc/ddG7XNmq7jwY3jAiN7 WLoxuHfaB6sOBvaejWaUt0A8tvMeaVd/TTI8T4VeCEAGrQWlFwKEhKHjtYI0hxfxxT hi04nflzRl4qHgm5YpuDYfMDM4o29QaRUTwVFWF7OVBVx2NNF+A4snImylVQ9YR3Kf RtoMWtTNKpqjNo0uZFb/4ycBSUb6x3+uE3ZKUe+W/Q8GASWVZzFBJHwAL2JhluRHtM PjhyODKymTahpoaqqixeyKI1BCUsR3gQahwdw6O3ngx5SgVIt6AHUtacEwjGTa9/pb 4E1hbXUg+FDgw== Received: from cds220.dcs.int.inet ([64.59.134.6]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id XAU7n7wm4qyysXAU7nbRqm; Wed, 23 Mar 2022 23:33:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Y6brDzSN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=623bae5c a=9zdlX7M534QhL7mOrorEvQ==:117 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=on0NmgUIp3IA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=h1uJLIqJFiIez0upMyQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:33:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Dale Scott To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1037078559.19823383.1648078427475.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: using pkgs vs using a cms List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [162.223.103.50, 162.223.103.50] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.8.15_GA_4203 (ZimbraWebClient - GC99 (Win)/8.8.15_GA_4232) Thread-Topic: using pkgs vs using a cms Thread-Index: hMC8ntPybH1Ie/UPl3dgv9x81iuFBA== X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfHsTrpsk6mMPfAyfqKIyIG7rjWcVgsolO5dUDUwdqXQLDb60ShRc09X4R9bpXgpw+Z9u2QxtShda8G2VbYkoqQHqujVqsm1SQlebLId4Rl3kCmpFWUCj k5IOJsotv+5GMVVi6x/qOYabHvOby9f5cKiI9PIxzBIGcQqA5D1Jw1BbIJLv3eB/bdclFcxzKygtues28TsJHPmuAWMJVxrzjBA7+jUt2RH+zLHoIA2cIyx7 4ItSaEY7cakRL2WxiE+MHFSh+VcdIL9juV07AmuQhX4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KP4S43YD1z3kN9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=shaw.ca header.s=s20180605 header.b="eNh/+MIH"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=shaw.ca; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dalescott@shaw.ca designates 3.97.99.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dalescott@shaw.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.05 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[shaw.ca:s=s20180605]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:3.97.99.32/31]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[shaw.ca:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[shaw.ca:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[shaw.ca,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.953]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions,freebsd-ports]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[3.97.99.33:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > What's the advantage in updating a port over using its > own ecosystem? > > examples: www/nextcloud and www/drupal9 > I can't speak to Drupal, but I installed Nextcloud and WordPress using the distribution packages from their projects and let them update themselves. For me I was more concerned about the pkg database (and possibiliy dependencies as well) being out of date after the first self-update. Of the eight or so PHP web apps I'm hosting, 2 update themselves, 4 don't have pkgs at all, and the others were giving me PHP and MariaDb/MySQL dependency conflicts, so it was simpler to not use pkgs at all and install them from project release tar balls or zip archives. The only downside for me is having to keep track of PHP module dependencies myself (which isn't necessaraly a bad thing). Dale