From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 13 17: 8:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-201-166.mmcable.com [65.31.201.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29ACA37B419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82531 invoked by uid 100); 14 Dec 2001 01:08:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15385.20768.287488.363538@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 19:08:48 -0600 To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boston Globe Article (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.42/Python 2.1.1 (freebsd4) From: "Mike Meyer" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, I probably shouldn't do this, and should let Jordan speak for himself, but ... Jason C. Wells types: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Annelise Anderson wrote: > This is funny. Correct me if I am wrong, but Jordan has always championed > FreeBSD as a server OS. He has consistently taken the tack that If > someone wants a FreeBSD "desktop" (whatever that means) then they can hack > at it. I dunno - when I first met Jordan, he was doing desktop Unix support at UC Berkeley. I think he may have grasped the reality that FreeBSD isn't going to displace Windows on the desktop, and therefore concentrated on making it the best servero OS possible. > I also seem to recall an interview where Jordan decried world domination > mindsets of the early unix vendors and the "green before red" in the kilts > comments of open source movements. The closest I can recall to that is his decrying what I called the "balkanization" of the Unix market, and doing things to avoid that with FreeBSD. If he carries that attitude into Apple so that they keep the underlying Unix standard so that commercial Unix tools build on it just like any other Unix variant, that would be great. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message