From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Apr 4 20:57: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8603B37B43F for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id ahuaaaaa for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:57:06 +1000 Message-ID: <3ACBEDDD.C8E3549B@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:00:29 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Enno Davids , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Why should network scanning be a crime at all? If anything should be a crime > > its sloppy admins that let there networks get comprimised... > > But when after you scan, you break in and destroy data, THAT should be the > crime I'm talking about. > > What you don't realize is that a lot of these attacks are now automated > rootkits which basically scan for the hole and if they find it, ROOT YOUR > MACHINE. > > This is wrong. Yeah sure its wrong to break in, but its not wrong to scan... Its a fine line these days, but a line all the same... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message