From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 13 16:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB24016A4CF for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-234.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18A643FD7 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC46E66B60; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Rahul Siddharthan Message-ID: <20031114004740.GA56759@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20031113233628.GA56182@xor.obsecurity.org> <20031114002204.GA1035@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031114002204.GA1035@online.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: chat@FreeBSD.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: The future of X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:47:43 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:22:04PM -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 03:41:35PM -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > >=20 > > > But the freedesktop.org stuff isn't a replacement of X, just further > > > development of XFree86 in a new direction. It certainly looks good, > > > and KeithP can deliver, he is the guy responsible for the antialiased > > > font support in XFree86 today. > >=20 > > So we can expect future XFree86 enhancements to also be slow and > > blurry? :-) >=20 > Well, I don't know about slow, but I like those blurry drop-shadows :-) > http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/screenshots/screen3.png >=20 > Seriously -- anti-aliasing was blurry in its early days, but with recent > xft and 2.1.x versions of freetype it's as good as or better than on any > other OS. Eg, the fonts in that screenshot (the insects and other > graphics are antialiased too, none of it looks blurry to me). As for > speed -- in its early days there was a slowness in generating .xftcache, > but no longer. It's too slow to use on my sparc64 machine (rendering e.g. large text files in mozilla takes up to 60 seconds, which is hardly acceptable). An ultra30 is hardly a speed demon thesedays, but it's not that slow. It's too blurry to read clearly on my 14" monitor (Windows is fine). Kris --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/tCYsWry0BWjoQKURAm00AJ9Te803DFRUd2CTYKTD3qv8gLUcgQCdF8lm Mva8xfuoIsNpJ+Jx5h3rd7Y= =UIZC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--