From owner-freebsd-security Mon Jan 18 01:09:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13758 for freebsd-security-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:09:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cheops.anu.edu.au (cheops.anu.edu.au [150.203.149.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13753 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:09:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from avalon@cheops.anu.edu.au) Received: (from avalon@localhost) by cheops.anu.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02014; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:08:34 +1100 (EDT) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <199901180908.UAA02014@cheops.anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: Small Servers - ICMP Redirect To: ck@adsu.bellsouth.com (Christian Kuhtz) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:08:33 +1100 (EDT) Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com, ck@adsu.bellsouth.com, danny@hilink.com.au, jjwolf@bleeding.com, ben@rosengart.com, madrapour@hotmail.com, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990117194706.H97318@oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com> from "Christian Kuhtz" at Jan 17, 99 07:47:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In some mail from Christian Kuhtz, sie said: [...] > Nothing is broken by not getting host unreachable messages. Nothing breaks > by not permitting traceroutes (port unreachable et al). Sure, path MTU > discovery according to RFC1191 is nice, but not vital. Argueably, there are > other much bigger bottlenecks over WANs (at the edge of which firewalls are > typically used) than suboptimal MRUs. [...] Depends on how you define "broken". If you don't mind waiting two minutes for a TCP connection to report "connection timed out" when it could return "network/host unreachable" then sure, stopping ICMP unreachables doesn't break anything. There's also a similar impact on DNS things which operate over the WAN (squid's protocol, DNS, NTP, etc) which can return an error that isn't "connection timed out". Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message