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Date:      Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:08:33 +1100 (EDT)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
To:        ck@adsu.bellsouth.com (Christian Kuhtz)
Cc:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com, ck@adsu.bellsouth.com, danny@hilink.com.au, jjwolf@bleeding.com, ben@rosengart.com, madrapour@hotmail.com, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Small Servers - ICMP Redirect
Message-ID:  <199901180908.UAA02014@cheops.anu.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <19990117194706.H97318@oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com> from "Christian Kuhtz" at Jan 17, 99 07:47:06 pm

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In some mail from Christian Kuhtz, sie said:
[...]
> Nothing is broken by not getting host unreachable messages.  Nothing breaks
> by not permitting traceroutes (port unreachable et al).  Sure, path MTU
> discovery according to RFC1191 is nice, but not vital.  Argueably, there are
> other much bigger bottlenecks over WANs (at the edge of which firewalls are
> typically used) than suboptimal MRUs.
[...]

Depends on how you define "broken".  If you don't mind waiting two minutes
for a TCP connection to report "connection timed out" when it could return
"network/host unreachable" then sure, stopping ICMP unreachables doesn't
break anything.  There's also a similar impact on DNS things which operate
over the WAN (squid's protocol, DNS, NTP, etc) which can return an error
that isn't "connection timed out".

Darren

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