From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Sat Jan 9 11:09:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475DA4D0F8F for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 11:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCcgm0n9Yz4q7R for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 11:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 18E6A4D1081; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 11:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ACB4D0B79 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 11:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DCcgl5cR4z4q33 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 11:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 109B9rvI062789 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:09:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202005; t=1610190593; bh=Yu8JkM6OZBYbu3Zt2VhTCSnYY7wFUfMLCnVXXfGjSg8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Jb7vvZyZ0T/20j4HM7OK1nA/kOaVgk+29kIHC7bnnzF8eAZhm04p6q7XvCFkqmgDN ypj6K4zcVJbj8VjB5B3Q19Nv4/bXpF/MES/N1maILQsGmyw/xeui+EnlLR3OwwDMbo uMChyckcRsUSwwwaYVP7YRRjOAuNSmMtPaC6C9oI= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: XFCE upgraded to 4.16 To: Guido Falsi , xfce@freebsd.org References: <46a21428-a640-f895-0f3b-f44c09497bf5@madpilot.net> <747ecac6-6d60-6143-1ae1-47801299b59b@netfence.it> <1502a321-02c0-13e9-16b3-6f11da9de3af@madpilot.net> <47ede65d-817a-8d80-a582-660d43ac6ac3@andreaventuroli.it> <45c74d5a-909b-8905-6673-b340e1d976b4@netfence.it> <989cf919-245c-61f9-3091-b0933849093b@netfence.it> <2b8631d8-479b-15ee-1efd-cc4bffd14710@madpilot.net> <838b577f-eb40-2776-19d4-2fb5f71611b3@netfence.it> <3655b4f7-0012-424b-7aa6-1d85fa2e9021@madpilot.net> <5f8cf84b-2474-d822-3f47-e57adabe1d92@madpilot.net> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <6bc1a88b-0455-93ff-10cc-91fe1b0dbc41@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 12:09:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5f8cf84b-2474-d822-3f47-e57adabe1d92@madpilot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DCcgl5cR4z4q33 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 11:09:56 -0000 On 1/8/21 8:42 PM, Guido Falsi wrote: >> I don't agree. Using a network file system for home directory if >> problematic at present. Most software uses sqlite databases for >> configurations which explicitly does not support networked file >> systems. and other problems could arise. >> >> Such a note should be attached to most software in the ports tree. >> Firefox and thunderbird (and most other browsers AFAIK) just to name >> two which use sqlite DBs heavily. (This is going OT, but Sqlite, in their FAQ, only suggest against *multiple processes* accessing the same database over NFS. ThunderBird works perfectly in such a setup as it's only one user/program accessing the database.) > ANyway, thinking about it, if the chflag errors are just warnings like > you say above, then setting a custom TMPDIR will not be needed even with > your setup. So there is no need for a warning anyway. Guido, you are losing sight with the heart of the problem, i.e. without TMPDIR, xfce4-appearance-settings tries to create a temporary directory in / (and obviously fails). This has nothing to do with where home is or what filesystem it's using. IMVVHO, if TMPDIR is something a FreeBSD will most probably NOT have, then it should be changed into something else. Or at least the user should know it must be set. bye av.