From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 14 23:04:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E417A1D9542 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47b34w2gf1z3MbN for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 9ptB_TUVM1luS2.yWK2PvnQiRjzhxlmk8.HX4rz.8U2izg2abQ8pGGrKZ_oMZkT I.Z8YsB6KQBENLuxlOAm28_WCeAqCh0YV61uPpGlfKTCiAblmluxLBdmVJQd6b8JeGKsi7bSiNHh FK8JZ_cxOaBPR82Ujgn4lfhyMbj1EY5RT54W2V4Z69.cy0kqUMJ9AvxZWuuB.StYatcAxF_yZQKd cXC25N9iEBvtUG7HFVGOPing6XLXLdT6G29y9owHWxpIA1nJhfW0KEWqO5FsNGB3GfNlX0v_jgQs foKqDgE7jOPHykfz5vlSt90Ood8Dk7tVsWCA48uFVKAYcR7MJLOrOTf_wXpeIkSuY1x5YuVEjlj7 S56rssoem66hTCvFD2QMYnb8Hv0OXxskgLgQTQFTBIorrTJ8rKcamN3N6YPixXRxMLBgzoFuTlHo qr1iGTW56okz8lVP6xeU7bxtLFrBVnug_ESW13FlDKHvFRK4kD0FELZYLdEFd9kdy7DkCziwW4Zn SUGBFyr964Kh8Ynyc3.Ii9Uqv85Uo7O9Rraqin0bQVibXPDvGbKgiXqFROMIKW3y9x9yUg.c_9sY BRVmh3yMNd9aRf4x70kxQQY3wGmz4isgr0a.qKQ_DQQX2zuE8GlWvnby.Hf_MvhS7FL8nHye1Kvm xuY3fhixSPaeb1ISQ2q6eh40tCjcrcdcBMWNo2RpoKeFz5ALRMdHZFFhyUSrOXKiNCfy.dr.5Ndv CBk3JJQ6lcO5zUBG9XNStZbEPLFzM.XqmULgITeuny52_lDr_QJfy9kUWiF6IXBsZYoyN5UK1VZL 9n7Ph3lu4qEri2bizCkG3QE3q1X9HPDvFenfUpY6Nclm7Uf99mNCmJQij57q263bCl6Bb9XXG2s7 9Xrebc6TJH7u35GKaxLKrPplAKAn2rzs2D8ajCUZTZonGOpbY0zrCuFaQXFzM1Gk0pm8CRAvcTr8 UpW_qp9kyXCYpeaNNXt3OsMmbXyFAmuyqXAi0b_THywgzlg7Uxd78H7Cpd6oBWLjNY_LDGhFFv.L buhM0toKSP4i2ePDag4jGVOxnMj6rVnPts3Gg6HliV7JdSfMPicSdN7J9ukU_79J85hEnmtOdugJ 2OuuxErIxZ6lOH6P7K1IfWebH2Xb6WlycnRMkhcNIcH57QlIwnrGlAvc8Lnbhx65jLFlLSin2eHF 5iNX2cXFFQMFt8HfBcCdFv1rOUYd_A23uN9FIz6rLXCpRNQ7ZJ1onPZDG0TKVljqOOXWHSvSZI3z K9fktKxRykKfEIWCpIC9MOLnGsWhXvCUHZz5tYH4sBcYrAkxU5Ul62N2W4Snb7Cn2kqjH0I6sBBB eidQw4wRS1Nvz9_7OMtKKalYarwpnuqCdvM.Y1sPSBMrQTn.EpUP.pgXEeTZjY0l7ZD8tjHOLaeA GWmXtVgJrAWgU4bpY9zCLhjUErF3b2KY- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:13 +0000 Received: by smtp410.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 7f535438c97e251013c20608b95ce555; Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 00:04:23 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: I apologise ... Message-ID: <20191215000423.5d43ff86@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <3c7df19d6e93eb168016421df0ec54d5@kathe.in> <20191214111857.67b4c53e@archlinux> <20191214124809.9b205826.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47b34w2gf1z3MbN X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.571,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.603,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.177.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.55), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.25), asn: 34010(1.78), country: GB(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 23:04:17 -0000 On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:48:09 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >FreeBSD should therefore be seen as a foundation, not as a "one size >fits all egg-laying wool-milk-sow", which it isn't, and which _no_ OS, >despite imaginable claims, is. To expect (!) something different than >this fact is absolute nonsense. "I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do." - HAL 9000 AI{,O} is what users expect nowadays and it will come soon, most likely with harmful secondary effects.