From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 06:37:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: net@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E287D106566B; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3098FC17; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB08170E3; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4R6bnsA045634; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:49 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Ed Schouten From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 May 2008 08:27:36 +0200." <20080527062736.GF64397@hoeg.nl> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:49 +0000 Message-ID: <45633.1211870269@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson , Ade Lovett , net@FreeBSD.org, "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled (was: 8.0 network stack MPsafety goals (fwd)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:37:52 -0000 In message <20080527062736.GF64397@hoeg.nl>, Ed Schouten writes: >> >The new TTY layer should still support line disciplines, [...] >> >> Actually... I think it shouldn't. > >With the word `should' I meant that it would still be possible to >implement multiple line disciplines with the mpsafetty code. But I >really think line disciplines should go. No, don't bother. Remove the entire "abstraction" of linedisciplines. >What should happen with the NETGRAPHDISC? It should be done in userland if it is necessary at all. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.