From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 22:42:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1E116A41F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:42:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [69.50.233.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FB343D49 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:42:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 72D031CC5C; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:42:14 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051006224214.GD8320@freebsdmall.com> References: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> <20051006204336.GA36557@neptune.atopia.net> <20051006213326.GA33286@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051006213740.GA37835@neptune.atopia.net> <20051006214904.GB33546@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051006221541.GA38659@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051006221541.GA38659@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:42:14 -0000 On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:15:41PM -0400, Dan Ponte wrote: > One idea is to revert to the old design, which suited people's needs > just fine. However, I doubt that will happen. Uhm, it didn't suit people's needs just fine. It was total crap with dozens of disorganized links all over the front page and second level pages topping 100k as they had just grown larger and larger over time and noone had stepped back to look at how bad it all was for someone coming to the site for the first time to find any useful information. I've had so many people ask 'where did all that new content come from about advocacy and such?'. The answer is it was there before just hidden in the complexity. This is not the appropriate forum for armchair web design discussions. If you are interested in tweaking the new design then join the -www@ list. Better yet, you could have participated in the redesign discussions there over the past 6 months. Patches will be addressed first. Second will be specific suggestions about regressions in useability (many have been fixed within hours of being brought up on the www@ list). I doubt you'll find anyone interested in acting on any 'I liked it better before' mails. Thanks for Kris and others on this list trying to keep things specific and constructive. Let's let this thread die on stable@ and move it to www@ where it belongs. - Murray