From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 31 21:30:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A8416A41F for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C65D43D48 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6VLUFTt003719 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j6VLUFwP003717; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 GMT Message-Id: <200507312130.j6VLUFwP003717@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84265: chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting w on directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:30:15 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/84265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/84265: chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting w on directory Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:25:12 -0700 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > I'm not sure if I am happy when features of programs are documented as > the behavior of the file/directory creation code. I wasn't sure, either. But users with a different concept of "created" than a Unix programmer will cry "FALSE" when they read your ``Files created in a directory will be assigned the group ID of the directory''. Many users don't know or care about system libraries that do file creation or directory modification. The fact is that some software creates it with one group and some creates it with another group. Thus my "generally". If you want your sentence, it should at least have another saying something like: "This rule has exceptions." or "Some software will appear to violate this convention". > Documenting the implications of write permission is important, but > please let us not modify perfectly fine parts of the manpage :-/ The only thing my new paragraph was modifying was the DESCRIPTION section. I'm not sure which perfectly fine parts you mean. I've probably said enough; do as you wish.