From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 26 15:31:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC1216A403 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (core6.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF8D43D46 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([212.135.219.181]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id md50002505954.msg for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:31:20 +0100 Message-ID: <00bd01c66946$6ce6f3a0$b5db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Mike Jakubik" , "David Gilbert" References: <20060425090739.8470143f.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <005301c668ab$39c4c150$8b00a8c0@multiplay.co.uk> <444E8F8A.9030409@rogers.com> <17487.34074.833134.823847@canoe.dclg.ca> <444F8912.4010604@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:30:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:31:20 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.181 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:31:22 +0100 Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Bill Moran Subject: Re: Dual-core CPU vs. very large cache X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:31:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Jakubik" > David Gilbert wrote: >> This isn't random. As I understand the issue, the Opteron HT bus >> handles synchronization much faster. So for a game --- this doesn't >> matter ... games don't (usually) need sync. Databases, however, live >> on synchonizaton. If you're a Dell man (and already paying the Dell >> tax), consider the Sun 1U's. They offer up to 4 cores in a 1U. Not sure what your on about regard sync? If your infering that intel kit works better for DB's for some strange reason then I think you've been very much missinformed. > Sure, the HTT bus is wonderful. Intel will raise the FSB to 1067, but i > still think we will see significant performance improvements on the new > Core architecture. The Conroe CPU throughly trashes an AMD Athlon-X2 at > a "higher" frequency. For those interested: > > http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713 > > > As much as i love AMDs cpus, the availability of good server > motherboards and chipsets stinks, hopefully that will change when socket > AM2 comes out. Unfortunately of no use atm as they wont be available for quite some time. IIRC AM2 is not a server solution just a client one the new server socket is significantly different. We would love to be able to deal with Dell but as they restrict themselves to the much lower performing Intel chips its not an option. Anyone who gets trapped into that side of things really need to consider their position seriously and tell whoever that Dell simply cannot supply that you need. Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.