Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:13:53 -0500 From: Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net> To: root@isis.dynip.com Cc: durang@u.washington.edu, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very Strange Question Message-ID: <36C90CA1.4FCACFC7@confusion.net> References: <199902150218.FAA04186@isis.dynip.com>
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Just to answer one part I'm pretty sure the first C program written was a
better C compiler, ie the bootstrap method, such that most c compilers are in c
root@isis.dynip.com wrote:
> On 14 Feb, K. Marsh wrote:
> > O.K. Well let me begin by saying "I don't know".
>
> I think you under estimate your knowledge, lloking at your answer.
>
> > I do know that the first home PC had no keyboard or monitor, but had a
> > bunch of switches and lights on it.
>
> Very interesting, which year was that.
>
> >You had to use the switches to put in
> > your program byte-by-byte, and if you screwed up, you had to start all
> > over. These bytes I can only assume were in machine language - binaries.
>
> The computer "BITES" you ask to speak.
>
> > So what probably happened was, some guy wrote a compiler in machine
> > language to compile the code of some slightly more sophisticated and
> > intelligable language
>
> Ya, but who, when, which machine architecture, what was his motivations
> and targets, and above all which was the FIRST HIGH LEVEL language, I
> mean right above machine language was first developed, is it ...
>
> MachineLanguage (binary bits 0 & 1) --> Assembly --> MacroAssembly -->
> Fortran --> COBOL --> ADDA --> BASIC --> C --> C++ --> JAVA
>
> What was the order, and the inventors, what made them invent that.
> can anyone see what I am aiming at ?
>
> I am looking in the History of computers, for the sake of the future of
> computers.
>
> > and then someone used that language to write a
> > compiler for yet another higher-level language, and so on, until one day
>
> > Dennis wrote a C compiler and C was born. I don't know what language the
> > first C compiler was written in. I sure hope it wasn't machine language,
> > though.
>
> So, what was the first application made in C.
>
> >
> > I guess the real meat in my answer is that the first compiler didn't need
> > to be compiled, because it was written in a binary form that the computer
> > could use without compilation or interpretation.
>
> You are probably very close to the correct answer, but when was the
> concept of compiling into binary format developed, and why the hell
> there are so many binary formats, does this indicate that none of them
> is effecient enough, and a new UNIVERSAL binary format is needed, the
> kind of binary that runs on any architecutre, or any OS.
>
> Finally I can't thank enough all the people who will share in
> clearing this topic.
>
> Bye for now.
>
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--
Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate
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Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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