From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 22 02:44:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A257416A4CE; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E143D41; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i2MAhv12082049 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:43:57 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i2MAhvBG082048; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:43:57 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:43:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Tadimeti Keshav Message-ID: <20040322104357.GA81524@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Tadimeti Keshav , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <20040322043307.2206.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040322043307.2206.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040316, clamav-milter version 0.67l cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MUTA X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:44:04 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 04:33:07AM +0000, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > hi all, > I know MUTAs are used to fetch mail from POP servers > and send mails (via SMTP) such as HOTPOP.com Hmmm... MUA -- Mail User Agent: the program a user uses to read and send mail MTA -- Mail Transport Agent: a daemon process that routes e-mail between hosts Not sure what a MUTA is, but it sounds like something you wouldn't want to meet down a dark alleyway... > I am confused what I should install. >=20 > Mutt,pine,fetchmail... > All I need is Microsoft outlook functionality. I am > more than happy to use curses/CLI based mail clients. mutt or pine are CLI e-mail programs (I prefer mutt as you can see =66rom the headers of this message, but pine is possibly a bit friendlier to the beginner): both of those have the capability to read mail out of a POP mailbox. However, they expect to have a local sendmail (or qmail or exim or postfix or other MTA) instance that they can inject e-mail into for sending messages. Which MTA you use is pretty much a religious thing, but the quickest one to get working will be sendmail (as it's installed as part of the system by default) and all you need do is: # cd /etc/mail # make # vi `hostname`.mc=20 =20 -- find the section of the file that says this: dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server') and edit it to take away the 'dnl' commenting and insert the name of the SMTP server your ISP supplies: dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.example.com') Nb. don't get confused by the quote marks: the left hand quote mark _`_ is different to the right hand one _'_. Just a feature of the way the m4(1) macro processor works. Then process that into a sendmail configuration file, install it and restart sendmail: # make # make install # make restart fetchmail(1) isn't a MUA as such -- it's a mail transport that can pull messages out of a POP or IMAP server and re-inject them into sendmail. Or it can hand the messages off directly to a program like procmail(1) for immediate local delivery. I'd not worry about fetchmail(1) until you've got your MUA setup first, and then only if you have a lot of POP mail accounts all over the place. If you want something a lot more like Outlook, then there are several full featured graphical MUAs. There's the Mail/News client which is part of Mozilla, or the more recent Thunderbird. There's Ximian Evolution (probably the closest thing to OE in the ports) and kmail comes as part of KDE. All of those should be able to speak SMTP directly to your ISP's server, so no need to bother with a local MTA on that score. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAXsNtdtESqEQa7a0RAoXpAJwOu3ELwe1BN26ktM+lEqyfFEDgigCfV9PS +cAS2ow84wU8FMoV7zWyonk= =F9N0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L--