From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 14:51:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1616A400 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7700313C458 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id F0AEDB04; Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:51:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:51:43 -0500 To: Chris Message-ID: <20070602145143.GA23234@soaustin.net> References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070529111757.GE70055@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070529182224.GD8255@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0706020045v1ce69a7bsec4a8dced2a99fe1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Volker , Mark Linimon , stable@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:51:44 -0000 On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:45:26AM +0100, Chris wrote: > Given that Kris repeatedly tells me and others that the ports system > is only supported on the latest freebsd release (meaning one has to be > upgrading freebsd on their servers every few months to get this > support) if 7.0 and 6.3 are released around the same time will the > ports tree be supported on both? Yes. As for changing the release schedules, the ports team can only advise the src team. If you want completely decoupled releases, please find about 6 people who will agree to work on nothing but doing the continuing engineering to keep a branched ports tree working, and let me know. (This estimate is from the pkgsrc guys.) "Support", btw, has an overloaded meaning here. The meaning that kris is using is "create packages and make sure everthing works". The meaning that you are using is probably "ports will work on that branch". The only time we've forcibly shown a branch the door was 4.11 recently, and that was because the support burden had become too high. If maintainers and committers want to keep their ports working on 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 5.4, 5.5, and -current, then they're welcome to do so. Any release older than that and IMHO they're wasting their time (in particular, there is too much src drift and instability pre-5.4.). Having said that, early values of 7000xx probably have too many src changes to expect much from them, either -- but then again, that's what they're there for. mcl