From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 11 15:21:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB1C16A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C8743D1F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=crom.vickiandstacey.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1ZUA-0007Qa-Dj; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:21:06 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i2BNKu2s081130; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:21:06 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2BNKo9H081129; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:20:50 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:20:50 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Jeremy Messenger Message-ID: <20040311232050.GD338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <1078967224.565.18.camel@localhost> <20040311211702.GA338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <20040311213945.GB338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <20040311222643.GC338@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.31.182] cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:21:09 -0000 --Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mezz, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Messenger " To: To Stacey Roberts Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:30 GMT Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:26:43 +0000, Stacey Roberts=20 > wrote: >=20 > >Hi Mezz., > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jeremy Messenger " > >To: To Stacey Roberts > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 22:05 GMT > >Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > > > >>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:39:45 +0000, Stacey Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > >>>Hi Mezz., > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Jeremy Messenger " > >>>To: To Stacey Roberts > >>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 21:29 GMT > >>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > >>> > >>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:17:03 +0000, Stacey Roberts > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Hello Mezz.., > >>>>> Thanks for the reply. > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "Jeremy Messenger " > >>>>>To: To stacey@vickiandstacey.com > >>>>>Date: Thu, 11 Mar, 2004 19:53 GMT > >>>>>Subject: Re: Long delays in Gnome2 start up > >>>>> > >>>>>>Try to create a new dummy user like tester to see if your GNOME will > >>>>>>startup faster. If so, then there are something wrong in one of in > >>>>your > >>>>>>personal directory like ~/.gnome2, ~/.gconf and etc. You can remove > >>>>>>these > >>>>>>directories on your normal user and let GNOME to startup fresh. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>No need to, I already have a spare user on the box to use for this.= =20 > >>As > >>>>I > >>>>>suspected, logging in with that other user results in a fast Gnome2 > >>>>>startup. > >>>> > >>>>A spare user with no GNOME personal directories? Do you mean, it does > >>>>login faster on the spare user? > >>> > >>>Yes. I often create two users that I can use, but only use one. I've > >>>never had the need to use any other than my primary user, so when this > >>>problem started last night I figured on checking to see if it happens > >>>for everyone (including root). > >>> > >>>As things turned out, both root and the other (spare) user can log in > >>>fine. > >>> > >>>Thought I should also mention that for my primary user (the account for > >>>whom the delays occur), I'd already tried the following: - > >>> > >>>1] rm -rf .g* > >>>2] rm -rf .esd* > >>>3] Ran startx > >>>4] Gnome2 starts fine > >>>5] Do nothing > >>>6] Log off > >>>7] Run startx again > >>>8] Long delay in Gnome2 startup > >>> > >>>I've done that procedure about four times now, just to make sure I > >>>wasn't going crazy. > >> > >>Umm, if it works fine on root and other users then it must be problem > >>somewhere in your primary user. So, if you reinstall GNOME and you might > >>still have the same problem. :-) Can you try do the full one? Like this: > >> > >>rm -rf .ICE* .Trash .Xauth* .gconf* .gnome* .gtk* .esd* .fonts.cache-1 > >>.meta* .nau* .recent* .thumb* .xscreen* > > > >Oh.., I didn't try removing those.., > > > >> > >>Also, there have few stuff in the /var/tmp/ like this: > >> > >>gconfd-${user} mapping-${user} orbit-${user} > >> > >>So, change from ${user} to your primary user then try to remove them. I > >>don't know if it will help, but I think it's a worth shot. Also, be sure > >>to check in the top or ps to make sure one of GNOME's app exit correct > >>before you try to do the startx again. This is my last suggest what I= =20 > >>can > >>think of, before you want to reinstall GNOME. > > > >Okay.., check me on this please.., just so I know that I follow: - > > > >Here's how I see your instructions set: > > > >a] Log off Gnome2 > >b] run top / ps to verify that all Gnome2 apps have exited cleanly (kill= =20 > >off any lingering Gnome2 apps still appearing in top / ps) > >c] Run rm -rf for .ICE*, .Trash, .Xauth*, .gconf*, .gnome*, .gtk*,=20 > >.esd*, .fonts.cache-1, .meta*, .nau*, .recent*, .thumb*, & .xscree* > >d] Run rm -rf for any instances for gconfd-stacey, mapping-stacey &=20 > >orbit-stacey in /var/tmp > >e] Run startx > > > >Let me know if I've got that procedure correct, please. >=20 > Yeah, it looks fine. Okay.., did all that (a to e) Ran startx Splash screen thingy started only after 3 seconds Delay of about 30 seconds before the various components stuff appears acros= s the Splash screen thingy Gnome2 starts up Virgin Gnome2 desktop loads Waited for about 30 seconds Clicked on Actions, Log Out Screen locks for 2 minutes The "Are you sure you want to log out?" dialogue box appears Clicked "Yes" (without selecting box to save settings) Gnome2 logs out Here's what I've seen on console: (nautilus:84885): Bonobo-CRITICAL **: file bonobo-control-frame.c: line 720= (bonobo_control_frame_set_ui_container): assertion `frame->priv->activated= =3D=3D FALSE' failed ** (nautilus:845885): WARNING **: destroyed file still being monitored (repeated four times) (nautilus:84885): Bonobo-WARNING **: Leaked a total of 1 refs to 1 bonobo o= bject(s) Ran startx again Gnome2 loads nice and quick Set background Clicked on Actions, Log out Desktop locked up for 1 min 40 seconds The "Are you sure you want to log out" dialogue box appears I ticked the "Save current set up" check box Clicked "Okay" Gnome2 exits That set of "bonobo-related" messages are on the console Ran startx Gnome2 starts nice and fast Set up some "Sound preferences": - Enable sound server startup & Sounds for events Clicked on "Sound Events" tab Under "User interface menus" I highlight "Choose menu item" Clicked on "Browse" Desktop locked up for 2 mins 33 seconds before the "Select sound file" box = appears I select "activate.wav", and clicked "Okay" Selecting other sound events after this runs a lot faster Closed the "Sound preferences" application Clicked on Actions, Log out, No screen lockups, "Are you sure you want to l= og out" dialogue box appears immediately. I check the "Save current setup" checkbox Clicked "Okay" Gnome2 exits immediately Set of "bonobo-related" messages are back on console Waited a few (30) seconds Ran startx Delay of 2 mins 55 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears Gnome2 quickly loads thereafter Waited for 10 seconds (did nothing) Logged out Gnome2 exits immediately Ran startx again Delay of 3 mins 5 seconds before the splash screen thingy appears Gnome2 loads immediately after Sound events work, by the way :-( What's going on? Regards, Stacey >=20 > Cheers, > Mezz >=20 > >Thanks again. > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Mezz > >> > >>>Thanks for the reply, by the way. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Stacey > >>> > >>>> > >>>>Cheers, > >>>>Mezz > >>>> > >>>>>>One more thing, make sure your hostname is working. X will startup > >>>>very > >>>>>>slow if you don't have the correct hostname. IE: fix the /etc/hosts= =20 > >>by > >>>>>>add > >>>>>>your hostname in it point on 127.0.0.1. > >>>>> > >>>>>This is not a problem. > >>>>> > >>>>>What *has* become a problem that I've noticed as well, is the fact= =20 > >>that > >>>>>even attempting to log out of Gnome2 takes almost 5 minutes now too. > >>>>>This is the time from clicking on "Actions", "Log Out".., desktop=20 > >>locks > >>>>>up.., five minutes later, the confirmation dialogue box appears. > >>>>>Clicking on "Okay", results in the log out then proceeding as per > >>>>normal. > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>BTW: reinstall apps aren't always a solution. > >>>>> > >>>>>One would think that, but at the end of the day, I'm inclined to > >>>>>reinstall something that's broken, rather than work with something= =20 > >>that > >>>>>was "hacked back together". The fact that this machine was up and > >>>>>running well after the reinstall of Gnome back in 2002. > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks again for taking the time. > >>>>> > >>>>>Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>Stacey > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Cheers, > >>>>>>Mezz > >>>>>> > >>>>>>On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:07:05 +0000, Stacey Roberts > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Hello, > >>>>>>> I've just had a strangely familiar problem re-occur with me > >>>>>>>tonight. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>For some reason, when I try to start gnome2 (with startx) there is= =20 > >>a > >>>>>>>very long delay before the splash thingy appears - almost 4=20 > >>minutes. > >>>>I > >>>>>>>mentioned familiar for the simple reason that this exact problem > >>>>>>>happened to me a couple of years ago, whilst I was running=20 > >>Gnome-1.2 > >>>>(I > >>>>>>>think). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>The short story of the eventual fix for me then was to reinstall > >>>>Gnome. > >>>>>>>I am now wondering if anyone is able to help me with this problem= =20 > >>now > >>>>>>>appearing now that I'm running Gnome-2.4.2. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I'll include what details I think are relevant here, but if there's > >>>>any > >>>>>>>information I can add, please let me know. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Like I said, if there's anything else I can offer, then let me=20 > >>know. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Stacey > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. > >>>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > bsdforums.org 's moderator, mezz. >=20 --=20 Stacey Roberts B. 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