From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 5 06:34:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA16598 for current-outgoing; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eel.dataplex.net (eel.dataplex.net [208.2.87.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16587 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod [208.2.87.4]) by eel.dataplex.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA10440; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:32:46 -0500 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:32:46 -0500 To: Paul Richards From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Latest Current build failure Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I think there's a problem on both sides, Richard's viewpoint is that >there should be a concensus that the new prototype will be adopted. On >the core side there's the viewpoint that they've enough to do without >worrying about the problem and making commitments to adopt something >that's not even down on paper yet. No, I see it as a more fundamental difference. I have been led to believe that the only acceptable "prototype" has to include the ability to build a complete release distribution from scratch. In order to do THAT, I don't have to build a "prototype", I have to implement the entire system. Further, they are unwilling to agree to adopt any incremental steps toward that goal until I have demonstrated the final product. If I misunderstand their position, I wish that someone would state a MINIMAL set of things that I would have to demonstrate to satisfy the "prototype" requirement sufficiently to allow me to start removing the roadblocks that are throughout the system. I view this process analogous to the situation where Apple moved the MacOS from 24-bit to 32-bit addressing. In that case, they had to examine every line of code and remove ALL the 24-bit dependancies before they could actually throw the 32-bit switch. While Apple was making that change, coding on other project did not come to a screeching halt. It continued, adhearing to the newer specification which was adopted long before 32-bit addressing was demonstrated.