From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 07:42:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D616A41F for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47A943D45 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DvVhZ-0006D2-Al; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:42:43 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DvVhX-0001PP-S0; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:42:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:42:39 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: David Schwartz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -2.8 X-Spam-Level: -- Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, fullermd@over-yonder.net Subject: RE: Software patents and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:42:47 -0000 On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, David Schwartz wrote: > The standard of proof in civil cases is simply a preponderance of the > evidence. Establishing that an idea is not obvious is evidence that two > people didn't develop it independently. I'm sure Newton would love this definition; Leibniz wouldn't. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 9287088 or 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ "NOP" is a trivial implementation of an executable Z subset.