From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 6 14:17:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF3CB69 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 857CC2EA5 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (mux.fjl.org.uk [62.3.120.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r86DnhJH044940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:49:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Message-ID: <5229DD78.3040705@fjl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:49:44 +0100 From: Frank Leonhardt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Spam control (was: Let People Find You in Google!) References: <001a113308688bfad504e5b20628@google.com> <20130906093239.138ffcca@gnewsense.gmail.com> <20130906062125.4305d997@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130906062125.4305d997@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:17:34 -0000 On 06/09/2013 11:21, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:32:39 +0100 > Graham Todd articulated: > >> Isn't this pure SPAM? > Why yes it is. Would you prefer it mixed with non-spam to make it more > palatable? > > Seriously, the ration of spam to non-spam is increasing exponentially > on this list. Until the moderators change this to a subscriber list it > will remain aa "any spammer can post" list. > There has indeed been a higher spam:ham ratio on this list of late, however making it subscriber-only won't help. The crims need only spoof the address of someone subscribed to the list to bypass that, and I suspect a few spammers have registered using false addresses anyway (leading to a bounce to anyone posting). Piping it through Spamassassin as it arrives at mx1.freebsd.org, although this isn't so effective against people using freemail accounts. Closing down irresponsibly run freemail operators would be a big help, but it's not going to happen. If anyone wants to discuss this OFF LIST, I'm up for it. Regards, Frank.