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Date:      Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:04:33 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Marco Molteni <molter@logic.it>
To:        Vincent Poy <vince@mail.MCESTATE.COM>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG, "\[Mario1-\]" <mario1@PrimeNet.Com>
Subject:   Re: security hole in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970730134009.197A-100000@dumbwinter.ecomotor.it>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970729151209.3844n-100000@mail.MCESTATE.COM>

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Ok guys,
my 2 cents opinion ;-)

There's a thing really I can't understand in all this thread.
Nobody said: 
"Vince, we're sorry about what happened to you. Probably you did something 
stupid, but _everybody_ has to learn his lesson the hard way.
Here you are a a checklist of books, programs and ideas to follow to 
improve the security of your site."

No, everybody started to flame at him! Why? Because he choosed as his
subject line: "security hole in FreeBSD" instead of "I'm a sucker 
please you security wizards help me" ? 

Do you think one can be a newcomer as an administrator, but _has_ to know 
everything about security before he starts to work? Come on!

Now a note about myself. I'm not a security expert, but security is 
surely a field I like much. I'm subscribed to this list to learn.
In the previous examples I'm not suggesting that Vince is a sucker or 
similar, I'm just replying to some arguments appeared in the postings.

Marco Molteni
Computer Science student at the Universita' di Milano, Italy.
"The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things".




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