From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 15:52:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB9010656EF for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) Received: from chronos.org.uk (chronos-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:12b::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5484D8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) Received: from workstation1.localnet (workstation1.local.chronos.org.uk [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:12b::20]) (authenticated bits=0) by chronos.org.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n11FqmMg021732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:52:49 GMT (envelope-from matt@chronos.org.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 chronos.org.uk n11FqmMg021732 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=chronos.org.uk; s=mail; t=1233503569; bh=NLX64hZD1+nUNn2OXItg+R3+CT9N1ZuHBqZL+O6TFN8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=HHTdWaI6n0wc/50dbhXisaupYCSc4yY7BlhXu5c4wjHyssl2H2hp3gozHN314pclB 00jcYsGmRm3xACni0o7Q3Ds06rBKg5lx9qFDjMEKweVlvoHdyNrJ45lh0qK20f0nK0 LtIQ0DKBa7LW9Z4mnBuVw4U0mpKMSOkqkHN5W66M= From: Matt Dawson To: Alex Goncharov , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:52:47 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) References: <200901311153.58361.vehemens@verizon.net> <200902011417.18045.matt@chronos.org.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Face: Uq{{&_!oO{M&ydj?-f%{D]bN7/|/]a+utod35[+IyH#R>F~YPffK,=?utf-8?q?=25=60=7D=25=0A?=FTMbmzo,]0X3K:N&{h7],FI{?EkORzB; f:V3"vKXsUNw5Yh`}ef4MZ*a4,=?utf-8?q?ObuJ=5F=26=5B1S=27zP=5CK0wcKZP=0A?==?utf-8?q?_=60=23L=25=5Dq*OUPQ-4T=3FHZ=7EAKX0=7D3W=25o=3DP?= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on central.local.chronos.org.uk X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8934/Sun Feb 1 13:58:06 2009 on central.local.chronos.org.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (chronos.org.uk [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:12b::1]); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:53:00 -0000 On Sunday 01 February 2009 14:37:32 Alex Goncharov wrote: > he laptop has a touch pad, which is reasonable to assume to be > "synaptics" -- but I don't use the pad (I've physically covered it, > and use only the "pointing stick" in the middle of the keyboard); > during one my experiments I also disabled the thing in BIOS. > > And: I have never used the xf86-input-synaptics driver. > > Is this something to think about -- what is the role of this driver? > Can the lack of it bring the storm of bogus key events with wrong scan > codes? Just tried dropping the synaptics driver and option in loader.conf (it needs hw.psm.synaptics_support in /boot/loader.conf or it gets picked up as an Intellimouse) and it works as a standard mouse. The keyboard is still fine with no spurious events. The synaptics driver opens up a lot of features on the trackpad (right hand side becomes a scroll "wheel", the bottom edge becomes a horizontal scroll, it picks up multi-taps and you can tweak much of it in xorg.conf) but I don't think this is the cause of your issue. FYI, this laptop is an ECS 331, RS485 chipset with a Turion ML34 CPU running 7-STABLE amd64 from Jan 12th. If anyone's interested (on x11@), I did just plug a USB mouse in and it Just Worked [TM] without me having to mess with anything. > | Which brings me to another little niggle: > > I can't comment on it -- but why to do it: why not to use the xkb > extensions (Option "XkbLayout" "gb" -- or something of that sort)? This was a general question to stable@ since I use the console a lot on servers and this used to stop me putting things like securelevel_enable=@YES@ into rc.conf and rebooting without noticing what I'd done, then engaging in percussive maintenance because it refuses to boot ;o) -- Matt Dawson MTD15-RIPE matt@chronos.org.uk